123 mounts are solid rubber.  They either get real hard (shake shake) or get
soft and compress (shake shake).  The original ones on my TD compressed to
the point some hoses/pipes rubbed on the fender (or maybe the shock tower)
until they leaked.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry T
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:48 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motor Mounts

Thanks - I know how to recognie when W124 MMs go bad but how about W123 
MM?  do they squish and get thinner?  Something else?

Larry

On 8/14/2013 8:03 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
> lemforder doesn't make motor mounts.  you may get OEM mounts in a
lemforder
> box, but they weren't made by lemforder.
>
> phoenix makes motor mounts.  btw, they also make (or at least used to) the
> suspension air bags on 109 cars
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Larry T <l02tur...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> and unfortunately the price is not a good indicator of quality. I think
>> the w124 MMs were Lemforder but that's from memory - I believe they were
>> around $65 ea.
>>
>> Thanks Gary for all your insight on these parts -
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>> On 8/6/2013 5:27 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>>
>>> if you know the brand, that would be the first thing.  in you case here,
>>> really phoenix would have come in a lemforder, corteco, rein/crp,
phoenix
>>> or mercedes box.  anything else will likely be anywhere from really
dismal
>>> chinese to sort of ok chinese.  you'll know soon enough, i guess, albeit
>>> perhaps the hard way
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Larry T <l02tur...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>   that's not a bad idea!  Don't know if it;s the sae with the W123 240s
as
>>>> it was with my W124 300D but when I replaced the MMs on the W124 the
>>>> change
>>>> to many things about the engine improved - it was much quieter, the
idle
>>>> speed was better and the "shaking and jerking" at idle and  low speeds
>>>> disappeared.   I was really surprised at the difference..   Bought the
>>>> replacements from Rusty and hope they are quality - better keep an eye
on
>>>> them in case thy are Chinese ....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> LarryT
>>>> 78 240D
>>>> 91 300D
>>>>
>>>> On 8/5/2013 10:23 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   seems i can get other ones as well.  i probably should just buy them
all
>>>>> and be king of the 240D moutns
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Gary Hurst <jabbahur...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>    this is more and more the case every day. i have found some
lemforders
>>>>>
>>>>>> though, so all should work out well.  in motor mounts these are often
>>>>>> genuine with the star ground down for 1/3 the price or better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Wow can't get febi or whatever anymore? Either have to pay way too
>>>>>> much
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for mb or buy the uro and change then about once a year
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 5, 2013, at 1:09 AM, Rick Knoble <rickkno...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    On Aug 4, 2013, at 11:07 PM, "Larry T" <l02tur...@comcast.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    -- the URO brand are around  $25 and the MB are $125+
>>>>>>>> Rock Auto lists DEA, Anchor, URO, and Beck Arnley.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dr. Fattys website lists URO only.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Keenan has OEM for $118.22
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jabba may know what is what with the ones at Crock Auto. If he can
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Rein, Meyle, or something that sounds German, that would be the
>>>>>>> ticket.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Rick
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