In general its OK.  My 2000 Jetta was hard to warm up on the coldest days
even in Nashville.  And on those same coldest days once it was at operating
temperature it would drop down some at traffic lights!  but it was a real
fuel miser, 50 MPG at 75 MPH was not uncommon.


On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I'm in New England but close enough to the ocean it doesn't get all that
> cold for all that long. We'll hit -20F one morning every other year or so.
> I've been driving a diesel car for the past 10 years and the only time I
> had trouble with not having enough interior heat was the time the fan died
> on the way to work. That was a cold ride...
> Mike is in upstate New York, probably colder there than here.
>
>
> There must be plenty of working type people around you with diesel trucks
> and of course all semi-trucks are diesels. If they didn't have cabin heat
> people wouldn't use them. You must see the grill blockers around a lot. At
> one point Ford made cool (well I thought they were cool) plastic inserts
> for the grills on their trucks. This would have been in the '90s when the
> grill had big holes. You could put in as many inserts as you needed to keep
> the engine warm. Pretty invisible in use unlike a blanket or piece of
> cardboard.
>
>
> I suspect one big advantage in more recent years is higher temp
> thermostats, the engine is producing heat, as long as you're not wasting it
> out to the radiator you'll be able to have it in the cab.
>
> -Curt
>
>
> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 10:49:18 -0500
> From: Randy Bennell <rbenn...@bennell.ca>
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamiey
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> On 18/09/2013 3:31 PM, Fmiser wrote:
> >> Curt wrote:
> >>
> >> You're not really looking at the numbers here, you're saying 20
> >> isn't that much more than 15 but it is 33 1/3% after all.
> >>
> >> In reality you've made my point again, you've got a 12 year old
> >> truck you've driven 66k, not even 6k a year, you're not a diesel
> >> truck person. A diesel person drives 25,000 miles or MORE a year.
> > I disagree here. *smiles*  A "diesel person" is one who chooses to
> > drive a diesel.  Someone using economics only for making a purchase
> > choice may need to drive that much per year to make diesel a good
> > choice.
> >
> > A true "diesel person" will buy and drive diesel powered vehicles
> > even if it cost me more to do so.  That's me. *grin*  Money is a
> > factor in my choice, but it is not the primary factor.
> >
> > --          Philip, diesel fan
> >
> >
> Where are you Philip?
>
> Any of you folks in colder climates? New Englanders maybe?
>
> I am wondering how well the diesel trucks produce heat.
> I am hearing stories around here that suggest they don't produce good
> heat in winter.
>
> Randy who lives in the GWN
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