I really don't think it is 'just fine' with health care, but it's accepted practice all the way to POTUS, so obviously I am in the minority.
The thing I don't get is that this 'mentality' protects the folks who can afford healthcare insurance ( wealthier ) while shafting the poor who cannot in any manner be privy to negotiation tools. This is not the normal POTUS position. ACA may be a tool to turn that situation around, because my friends who had private insurance are now paying 3 times what they paid prior to ACA. But in the end, they still have the negotiation tools that are not available to the guy on the street corner selling papers. On Friday, April 4, 2014 5:35 AM, Gary Hurst <jabbahur...@gmail.com> wrote: which is pretty obscene to my mind. i mean, imagine you walk into a store to buy a pair of shoes and the price for the exact same shoes varies from 37 to 150 dollars depending on your affiliations. you'd certainly resent that, no? why is it just fine in healthcare? On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> wrote: > Wife's hip replacement surgery last year cost us around $1000 out of > pocket. Never saw the hospital bill, but I'm sure it was ridiculous and > negotiated down considerably from the "list" prices. > > When my oldest son was going to be hospitalized for a few days some years > back, I saw the "rack rate" was $400/day, but the "provider rate" was > something like $125/day. > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Apr 3, 2014, at 11:16 AM, Richard Hattaway <rhatta...@rocketmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Total billing to me, inclusive of dr, er, hospital. Total bill to > insurance was much higher. Large part of total bill to insurance 'written > off' because of previous negotiated rates. I think it's all a game. Just > too bad that those who don't or didn't have insurance also do not have the > "negotiating ability" of the insurance companies. > > > > The poor are charged as much as possible by whatever rules govern these > practices. Then they are hounded for payment. Insurance companies get way > better prices. Upshot of this to me is to have insurance, even if it's > really high deductible insurance. Then the negotiation is taken care of > before you get the final bill. > > > > It all appears to be a game. Noticed in the paper today a local > healthcare provider, supposedly non profit, was crowing about how many > millions in free health care they gave away last year. All the puzzle > pieces don't fit, IMO. > > On Monday, March 31, 2014 8:27 PM, Mitch Haley <m...@voyager.net> wrote: > > > > Richard Hattaway wrote: > >> Not had this happen to us. Recent ( 2012 ) trip to ER, then 3 days > hospital stay, wife's heart attack, and my total bill was something under > $1000. Not bad, IMO. > > > > Total bill, or total co-pay? > > > > Mitch. > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner > has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. 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