One of the option out west, were there are big rivers and some dams, the excess wind power sucks water back up the dam and stuffs it into the water hole it just came out of. THe electrons were not going to get to go on the grid anyway, and the little fishies get to play in the water for a few more days. It also helps keep the irrigation water stored for later use
clay On Nov 12, 2014, at 7:23 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > I've followed all those possible storage modalities and I don't see great > progress with them. > > A battery bank capable of supplying 20 Megawatt power to power a small city > would consume days of wind energy to produce electricity to store... you > enter the land of diminishing return quickly. > > Molten salt requires electric current to heat to useful working > temperatures.. again with wind power.. how much the wind blows to produce > heating electric vs how long you can store heat at working temp.. again.. > diminishing returns.. > > Compressed air takes energy to compress, storage facilitys to hold it.. to > run what is in effect a steam turbine [with no steam expansion] ... ¿¿ > Return on investment on that seems sketchy. > > Unless some really wonderful invention has been made to overcome the > incipient short comings of these, I don't see great moves in the near > future.. > > Please edumacate me. > > Grant... > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Batteries, molten salt, and ice. Compressed air some day. >> >> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> Do tell more. What are these storage technologies and who is developing >>> them? >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Andrew Strasfogel >>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 4:11 PM >>>> >>>> They are rapidly developing ways to store energy that will smooth out >>> load >>>> fluctioon caused by intermittency of wind and, to some extent, solar >>> power. >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those >>> individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner >>> has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. >>> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those >> individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner >> has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. >> > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has > no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
