I have insufficient bandwidth to respond fully to that observation,
but I will say that the Hippocratic Oath mentions nothing about
working for free, being unable to pay back $200k+ in med school
loans ("greed") plus maybe another $150k in living expenses (you
know Georgetown ain't cheap), or working 80hr/week, sometimes for
20hr straight, or trying to have a normal family life while dealing
with death and dying people all day, or taking 10 years with
relatively low pay (while paying back those loans and having some
sort of life) to get the point where you can do that reasonably
well, or missing holidays with your children and family because you
are taking care of sick people in the hospital (hey, we get to do
that at Christmas again this year, wife and son both working the
holidays! Fun times!). Oh, and my wife studying for her boards
(again) every spare minute for weeks on end, just so she can be a
better doc. Greed must be what causes that course of life. Oh
yeah, and there was that time I had to take a call from a woman
whose husband just died at 3AM because my wife had given her our
home number, but she was at work taking care of someone else who was
dying, so I got to deal with that. Lotta fun, I felt very greedy
then.
I figure my wife's medical efforts, starting on that course after
having a fairly successful career and making some pretty good money,
had a direct and opportunity cost in the $1.5M range if not more. I
know what my son's education/forgone income to get him to the point
he is now has cost, and it is in the high 6 figures. So this family
has "invested" over $2M (green money, not including the ancillary
non-monetary costs) to make 2 docs with the expectation that the
investment might have a bit of a return. I don't ever recall either
my wife or my son ever mentioning making a lot of money as the
reason for doing this, but we all damn well expect to get
compensated for the energy and effort and pain we all put into it.
None of the other docs I know, and that is a lot, ever say that
money was the reason they got into that business, though they do OK
after their investment. They treat ungrateful ingrates just as
well as appreciative people, and do it willingly, and it's their
work they talk about when we get together.
People who have that view can just STFU and go see a witch doctor
when you get cancer or some other serious disease. We have some
back in the woods on these sea islands, I could probably hook you
up, will only cost you a few $$ or a coupla chickens or something.
Oh look, it's the first of the month, time to drop another coupla $k
on the boy's loan payments... feel free to help out the greedy! We
actually had the conversation a coupla months ago about that,
apparently if the borrower defaults, or fails to pay the loans off
after some point, the loan provider (the taxpayers) will actually
eat the loan and the borrower goes free. Some of his classmates are
taking that path. But he actually said he would not feel good doing
that, so he is living in a cheap apartment for a coupla years,
driving the 17yo car handed down from his grandpa, so he can make
payments on his loans and get them paid down sooner rather than
later. Quite an irresponsible child we raised, acting so greedy...
--R
On 11/3/15 1:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
I would redirect my anger toward greedy doctors who conveniently
forget about the Hippocratic oath
Hear Here!
The problem is not the doctors. It is the goobers messing with them
and the system, and the system of drugcos, inscos, equipcos, and the
med schools who prolong the system. The goobers try to get their
greedy little fingers on everything that generates even small
volumes of money, like the elderly lady who runs a restaurant that
does well 2 months of the year, so makes cash bank deposits of 8 or
9,000. The goobers confiscate her bank account, her money,
effectively putting her out of business, thus killing the sparrow
(not goose) that laid an egg (not even close to a golden egg.) The
law sez the goobers can monitor deposits of $10k or more, so they
extend that to confiscating those who deposit 80% or 90% of the legal
threshold. Not to mention all the other sins and illegal practices
of the goobers collection agency! (GCA)
http://www.radioiowa.com/2014/10/28/spirit-lake-restaurant-owners-fight-against-the-irs-gains-national-attention/
Andrew, I realize you live in DC and are a goobermnt employee, but
you should be ashamed of yourself for alleging that doctors don't
live up to their oath.
HOW MANY IN GOOBERMNT LIVE UP TO THEIR OATH???? I'd say maybe 10 of
535 for one group.
Rich, good for you for taking the time to explain the obvious.
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