The FBI released a study about carry weapons and caliber that concluded since
only 10% of shots would likely ever hit anything it made sense to carry a 9mm
since you could carry a lot more ammo.
Back years ago I used to regularly shoot on the range with the police and as a
HS student embarrass them completely. I remember once they were shooting at man
sized metallic plates at 10 feet and hitting about 20% of the time. I asked if
I could try and they wanted to give me a handicap. I said "Okay, I want to
shoot at 100 meters." Not the handicap they expected but I could hit the target
just about 100% of the time.Of course at that point I was putting about 100
rounds a day through my pistol shooting dinner plate sized targets at 100
meters...
-Curt
From: G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: G Mann <g2ma...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cops and vid games wuz: 230SL and OT 2nd Amendment
celebration
It now comes out that the cop that discharged 16 rounds at the juvenile
troublemaker actually missed 14 times at near point blank range.
Based on that demonstrated skill level, it now appears there is possible
good cause to plead it was an accidental shooting and a "gun malfunction"
that caused the gun to keep firing. [Hey... just trying to think like a
defense attorney for a bit].
16 rounds discharged, 2 made contact... almost makes you want to enter a
life of crime in Chit-kag-oooo, with those odds.
>>>>Sarcasm off>>>>
Grant...
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> one detriment (of many) of video games is that they taught kids that
> shots don't matter, more is better. There is no cost, and no unintended
> damage in video shoot-em-up games. I grew up before Pong. (B.P.) We
> watched Dan'l Boone on TV. I hunted with a single shot. I could reload
> faster than Dan'l. The idea was to accomplish whatever you intend to do
> with one shot. I seldom missed. Even with trap I was always at 20/25 or
> better. I'd roll rabbits on the run, but other than trap or rabbits it was
> a careful shot.
>
> I'd quit deer hunting when the morons with 12 ga automatics came out.
> Probably Brownings. (nothing but the best) They generally popped off 3 to
> 6 shots, and that meant to me they were indiscriminate, firing wildly.
> That meant a lot of deadly lead flying around. I didn't want to be in the
> way of any of it. Our neighbor would bring out the rich bigwigs to go
> "deer hunting" I didn't trust any of em. Once in a while, by accident they
> occasionally got a deer I think. I bet it was at least 25 misses per hit.
>
> I hear about these cops emptying a 16 shot pistol into some poor slob and
> shake my head. These chic a gogo incidents and we had one where the cop
> put 16 shots into some unarmed kid they knew was a druggie hopped up on
> drugs. (He stole his dad's truck) To me, that just telegraphs that the
> cops are poorly trained or too hopped up to make clear decisions. If
> someone is charging you I can see 1, 2 or maybe 3 or 4. But 16 means that
> the trigger is way out of control. Especially when the opponent is unarmed.
>
> Maybe I don't understand the effects of some of the drugs. I'll admit
> that. I try to stay far away from users.
>
> In the local case, because the kid was lacking in melatonin, the cop was
> absolved of ANY wrongdoing, and even the media shrugged it off. No color,
> no story.
>
> I was always trained to keep a cool head and think clearly under fire.
> emptying the clip when there is only one (often unarmed) opponent to me
> indicates a lack of clear thinking. That said, I've never faced an armed
> opponent, so I am perhaps unqualified to evaluate.
>
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