Well, interesting dissertation. My W126, 300SDL, did leave me FORD once -
due to a faulty factory alarm system that would not let it crank, even with
a jump from another MB Diesel. Had to unplug the alarm system computer to
get the car to move again. IIRC, this group diagnosed the issue for me. So,
it's not KISS enough to meet your criteria. One of my W124 300D 2.5 Turbo's
left my daughter FORD once also - due to a dead alternator - and no hill
steep and long enough to get it up to speed to start due to the automatic
tranny - the only option in the US. Also does not meet your criteria for
KISS. Same for the the W115 330D's. Only the manual tranny 240D met your
criteria.

I do like the magneto fired engines - I also kick started my BMW R69S back
in the day. I could never get the R100 to start via the kick starter - had
to use the battery starter, which I thought of a cheating - though I doubt
that the electronic ignition instead of a mag had anything to do with that.
Of course, the aircraft engines have two independent magneto ignition
systems - because they aren't really all the reliable either. They are
mechanical devices with points, condensers, gears, etc.

Our highly computerized VW Diesel has also left us FORD - at least it was
in the driveway - after a squirrel chewed the wiring. I don't know which of
the old MBs would have survived that better.

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
[email protected]> wrote:

> People are scared of the computers but I don't know why. The computer
>> helps you troubleshoot exactly the problem rather than just shotgunning
>> parts.
>> Which reminds me, the '05 Golf turbo seems to spool up late, I was hoping
>> an Italian tune up would help but I've been driving the snot out of it and
>> other than the fuel economy seems to be rising I don't see much difference.
>> I need to put my laptop on it and watch the pressures and see whats going
>> on. Its cool that you can watch it real time and very nice with the VW that
>> all you need is the $250 cable and a Windows PC. Interestingly I'm running
>> Windows in Virtual Box on a Mac and it works just fine...
>>
>> -Curt
>>
>>
> Well, my 123.124 or 126 diesels with mechanical fuel injection don't need
> a computer, don't need a crank position sensor and are utterly reliable.
> As for diagnostics, people did it for years without a computer.
>
> For vergassers: Every time I set points with a feeler gauge or other
> substitute (even by eye in my younger days) It was right, or very nearly
> right (within acceptable range) when checked with dwell meter. Same for
> when I set static timing.
>
> I have hardly ever used a timing light or dwell meter for lots of v-8 and
> 6 cyl cars and trucks, 4 cyl tractors and one or two lung motorsickles.
>
> Non computer engines are simple.  As used to be in the old HS locker
> room.  KISS.
>
> Keep it simple, Stupid!
>
> An electronic diesel can, and often does, leave you  FORD.  (found on
> roadside, dead.)
>
> In 40+ years and only God knows how many hundreds of thousands of miles,
> My diesels have only left me FORD twice.  The first time was shortly after
> I bought MB Diesel #2 from a stealer.  They promised me the engine was
> rebuilt.  In under 10k miles, it turned a bearing because the engine was so
> worn out that 6 valves were reusable moving parts.  I blame that on a lying
> stealer, not the engine.  BTW, it had no blowby or smoke.
>
> The second time was when the Vac pump bearing came apart on my first OM603
> before I learned about the vacuum pumps without screws on the front cover.
> I blame that on poor engineering (en-gin- error) not the engine.  In both
> cases, my own inexperience played into being FORD also, especially in the
> second case.
>
> I love manual trans mechanical injected MB Diesels.  They are like my old
> BMW R50/2 (magneto) and old tractors with magneto.  If you can get it
> started, it won't let you down, no matter what the battery/alt-gen system
> does or does not do.
>
> I pushed my 190Dc down the hill to start it many times.  I kick started my
> R50/2 or let it roll down a hill many times to start it with no battery at
> all.  The International H tractors (Magneto) would start with a crank.
>
> Being FORD because some electronic gizmo lost the smoke and magic has no
> appeal to me.
>
> Being FORD and have to be towed to the stealer for a $300 to $500 "key"
> because the one you have has been used a certain number of times has no
> appeal to me, especially because the "tow" might be a 200 to 500 mile round
> trip for the truck.  THAT is expensive.
>
>
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