Ok, maybe 12 is a bit much, but if you let it heat for a long time its
impressive how hot it can make the engine.  We're talking about trying to
start a problem engine here.  The more heat the better.

On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 11:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Correct.  I plug it in my 123 wagon when I go outside to get the paper,
> then by  the time I leave for work 45 minutes later it starts right up.
>
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 10:21 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Twelve hours seems awfully long, in my experience about 30 - 60 minutes
> is
> > long enough for the block heater to be effective.
> > --
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> > '87 300TD
> > '95 E300
> >
> > On November 12, 2016 9:18:15 PM EST, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >Next time plug in the block heater for 12 hours and try again.
> > >
> > >On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > >mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> i finally got it to start.  Wilton's battery is in it, I had the
> > >charger
> > >> on it too to give it a bit more oomph.  I cranked for maybe 3 minutes
> > >and
> > >> it burped 3 or 4 times then finally started and ran fine.  I'll get
> > >some
> > >> more fuel for it, pour in some alcohol if there is any water in
> > >there.
> > >>
> > >> thanks for all the ideas.
> > >>
> > >> --FT
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 11/12/16 4:28 PM, David Bruckmann wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> It's unclear whether this is a 617 or 60x engine, but assuming it is
> > >the
> > >>> former, they can become difficult to start once they've sat for a
> > >while.
> > >>>
> > >>> Easiest is to tow-start it (yes, even with an automatic - check the
> > >>> owner's guide) but for sure you can get it going by removing all but
> > >one
> > >>> glow plug (to reduce load on the starter motor and increase crank
> > >speed),
> > >>> glow and then crank crank crank until it fires on that one cylinder,
> > >then
> > >>> screw in the next glow plug, crank crank crank, by the time you have
> > >the
> > >>> third glow plug installed it should run on three cyclinders. Then
> > >pop in
> > >>> the next two plugs and all should be well. I've done this many times
> > >over
> > >>> the years and it has always worked.
> > >>>
> > >>> Underlying cause is usually valves needing adjustment or low
> > >compression
> > >>> on the engine from bad piston rings.
> > >>>
> > >>> D.
> > >>>
> > >>> On 11/12/16, Floyd wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> It has been sitting for awhile, been trying to start it.  I thought
> > >it
> > >>>> wasn't glowing so took the relay apart and cleaned the contacts on
> > >the
> > >>>> solenoid, it is operating so getting glow.  I crank and crank and
> > >get
> > >>>> the occasional klatta but it won't light off.  It is smoking (which
> > >is
> > >>>> good because it is running off the skeeters) and fogging the whole
> > >>>> estate so I'm thinking it is getting fuel, and the filters look OK.
> > > I'm
> > >>>> wondering if the fuel got water in it or condensation or something,
> > >I
> > >>>> guess I should go get some and put it in the tank.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Any thoughts?  I haven't checked the glow plugs or injectors or
> > >>>> anything, maybe that is something I need to do?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> --FT
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >> --
> > >> --FT
> > >>
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