When my mom died in 06 they had funeral insurance with the local funeral home. You buy a policy for an amount like $10k or so then all the funeral stuff is done with that, casket, the service, embalming, transport, whatever. So a few months later I am sorting through all the estate stuff, and I find this other insurance policy for $10k, no idea what it is. So I call up the insco to find out, I have to send them paperwork so a coupla weeks later I get a call from them saying they paid the funeral home with the proceeds. I told the girl my mom had a policy specifically for that, why did they pay this to the funeral home. She says well they called and said they needed to get paid for the funeral. Keep in mind as far as I knew they were not on this policy, my dad was the beneficiary. The girl had no idea why they had done that, there was no real record of it and however it sorted out. I didn't even know she had this policy, it was something she bought ages ago. WTF?

So I call this woman I had dealt with at the funeral home, she was no longer there and I get the runaround. So I call my auntie, who knows everyone in this little town, and she gets me the name of the head guy over there. So I ring him up, explain the situation, where is this money? He claims not to know anything about it but will check and get back to me. A week later no call, so I ring him back, finally reach him, and he hems and haws and yeah they should not have got that money as there was another policy specifically for the funeral. He never could explain exactly what happened but it was pretty clear I busted him and his little scam. I suggested I would have my dad's lawyer and the county prosecutor (I had dealt with her extensively related to another situation of people ripping them off) discuss the matter with him, and OBTW how much exactly did that funeral cost and how much was that other policy? A few days later I get a check for like $17k which included however much that policy was worth and the leftover from the funeral costs. So basically this outfit was a bunch of damned thieves, tried to rip me/my dad off for $17k. I got to thinking about how many other people they probably scammed like that, no one would really ever know unless they did a really detailed study of all the dead person's papers and such to figure it all out. My parents's stuff was a complete mess, so it was kinda happenstance I found this policy and then chased it down.

--FT


On 3/1/17 6:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Indiana University has a whole program ( 
https://medicine.iu.edu/give/body-donation/ ) dedicated to the donation and 
handling of human bodies for medical research.  We had a guy assigned to us 
that was in contact with us through the whole process.  He even got to wail on 
the funeral director who picked up my Mom’s body from the care facility then 
more or less held her hostage for the costs of transporting and storing her. 
This guy was the “designated” funeral home for the facility and they called him 
first instead of calling the people at IU like they were supposed to.  He 
refused to release her body unless we paid his costs ($350) for removal and 
transportation.

We immediately contacted our guy at IU.  All we know is that the guy from IU 
went down and saw the funeral director face to face and within minutes her body 
was being transported to IU like it should have been to begin with.

I talked to a high school buddy of mine who runs a funeral home in the same 
area about it and he knew about this particular guy and his business.  
Apparently he was known for pulling stunts like this.  He said that the IU 
people probably suggested that he wouldn’t like a complaint to the state about 
his practices as he had been busted and fined for similar infractions in the 
past.

-D


On Mar 1, 2017, at 5:23 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <[email protected]> 
wrote:

My wife and son did these ceremonies for the people in the cadaver lab, they are treated 
very seriously and very considerately, and the students learn to appreciate them too, 
having carved up the bodies.  It is kind of a humbling experience and makes the bodies 
more "human" after they are done.

--FT


On 3/1/17 3:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
It’s a really cool thing that they do - once a year they have a 
non-denominational memorial service for all the families of the donors on 
campus that is mandatory for all first year medical students to attend.  Then 
they take the cremains to Crown Hill and inter them in an area set aside for 
those who have donated their bodies to science and hold a graveside ceremony as 
well.  really nice way to memorialize these folks and honor the families as 
well.

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Winston Churchill:
“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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