If I buy an electric vehicle it needs to complete an evacuation to high ground 
(out of the path of a hurricane) that may take 24 hours and require multiple 
refueling stops.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On July 17, 2017 3:33:25 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>If I buy an electric car I want it to generate some clicking noise so I
>don't fall asleep at the wheel.
>
>On Jul 17, 2017 3:21 PM, "Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes" <
>mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> WRT Norway, I saw a segment on the PBS News Hour recently outlining
>> Norway's massive subsidies on EVs, as well as the substantial
>penalties on
>> IC engine vehicles. There is no way the current percentage of EVs
>will
>> continue to be sold without these massive interferences in the free
>market.
>>
>> And if demand falls for fossil fuels, that will no doubt lower the
>cost
>> even further. And if battery technology improves to the point of
>making EVs
>> competitive, good. Choice and a free market is what has made this
>country
>> great. There: I began two sentences with "And". But at least I did
>not use
>> a preposition to end a sentence with!
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
>Floyd
>> Thursby via Mercedes
>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 12:02 PM
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: Floyd Thursby
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is a shock to the oil companies
>>
>> This is interesting in that this morning I heard some story on NPR,
>which
>> I did not pay a lot of attention to, that seemed to consist of
>handwringing
>> about the projection that fracking for gas has introduced a huge
>amount
>> into the market, and that the US will need to start exporting the
>stuff
>> soon.  It is displacing coal and oil, which seems like it would be a
>good
>> thing, esp for electricity production.  I have not studied the matter
>in
>> detail of how EVs would affect the grid, electron production,
>oil/gasoline
>> usage, etc. but kinda like cars affected hay prices at some point
>like 100
>> yr ago, I'm sure this is just another step in progress (however one
>might
>> define it).
>>
>> I also read something yesterday, and I do not mean to set off a
>partisan
>> political debate, that found the whole Russia/Trump/Clinton thing to
>be
>> laughable, as maintaining low gas/oil prices on the international
>market
>> was squeezing the hell out of Pootie and the WOGs, which is something
>that
>> would be more associated with The Don than with Hilz, so it made no
>sense
>> that the rooshans would want Trumpy in El Casa Blanca.  It is a very
>strong
>> economic warfare sort of tool, and the US is now in the position
>similar to
>> the end of the Cold War to squeeze them with more supplies and more
>money
>> and better technology.  Kinda makes sense.
>>
>> I also recall Kleb going half crazy some years ago obsessing about
>Peak
>> Oil and we were all going to be forced to skweez oil from turnips to
>run
>> our dizzels.  Dizzel was $2.03 yesterday at one station I passed, so
>I'm
>> thinking that has not yet happened. So there's that.
>>
>> --FT
>>
>>
>> On 7/17/17 2:52 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> > Your replies would look better if you put them on the right
>message.
>> > I hate dumb articles. This article is dumb, its written for dumb
>people.
>> > It doesn't think about where the electricity to power those cars
>will
>> come from. The predictions are pulled out of thin air.
>> > "And Statoil ASA, Norway's state oil company, thinks EVs will
>comprise
>> 30 percent of new sales by 2030."Lets look at this one, starts a
>sentence
>> with "And", that ought to be enough to discount it right there. It
>should
>> also be noted that Norway's state oil company doesn't think anything,
>maybe
>> an economist or even worse a futurist at Statoil thinks that but
>clearly
>> not one dumb enough to have his or her name attached to it.So the
>sentence
>> should really say "Somebody in Norway wouldn't go on record as
>saying",
>> real believable right?
>> > Remember I'm in favor of electric cars, I'm against poor writing...
>> >
>> > -Curt
>>
>>
>>
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