Cannons come to mind . . .

On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> Me, too. Lots of spelunking when I was in high school. Lots of cans of
> carbide pellets, too.  Plenty of fun things to do with them besides use in
> our headlamps...
>
> -D
>
> > On Sep 1, 2017, at 9:27 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Not that I would have any direct knowledge of any such things... but I
> will admit to having used carbide lamps while caving (before LED lamps!)
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> > On 9/1/17 6:18 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Won't it also self ignite if you just let it out of the bottle too
> >>> Curt
> >>
> >>> Acetylene is _hugely_ explosive.  One spark, even by a kicked rock,
> >>> and you've made a trench across the road.  Not Recommended.
> >>> -- Jim
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> "Subjects like this don't have a simple answer; in this case, what
> happens depends greatly on the conditions. Different metals and even
> different surface conditions of the same metals can have different
> catalytic properties and of course the temperature, the presence of other
> gases (especially oxygen) and the size of the cavity holding the gas will
> all have an effect.
> >> Acetylene (C2H2) doesn't need to react with anything else; it has a
> high energy triple bond between the carbons and when conditions are
> 'wrong', the molecule comes apart, mostly liberating free carbon, hydrogen
> gas and lots of heat which causes an explosive increase in the pressure.
> >> When oxygen is present, it can be even worse. Consider the fact that
> when your torch tip overheats and pops, the volume of gas is very small and
> also well contained yet the noise is very loud."
> >>
> >> http://weldingweb.com/archive/index.php/t-23483.html
> >>
> >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >> 80 years ago we kids would play with "carbide" (calcium carbide) which
> generated acetylene when exposed to water. We wanted an acetylene "cannon"
> like the rich kids had but satisfied ourselves with dangerous home made
> "water pipe" cannons which were just as loud as the store-bought kind.
> >>
> >> One of the neighborhood boys put carbide and water in a tin can,
> punched a small hole near the bottom so he could ignite the gas, put a
> bigger tin can over it, and lit off the acetylene. He spent that night in
> the hospital since the flash burnt off his eyebrows, cowlick, and gave him
> an instant sunburn; but left him okay otherwise. We never did figure out
> where the top can went.
> >>
> >> After that our parents banned carbide which made the neighborhood dogs
> happy since the unexpected loud bangs terrified them worse than the Fourth
> of July.
> >>
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big-Bang_Cannon
> >>
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