Andrew wrote: > So what would it take to convince you that burning fossil fuels isn't > warming the planet?
...hmmm... particulate traces of all sorts of bad health stuff? How about this - compare horse apples on the pathway versus toxic particulate traces in the greenhouse gas? Do complete analysis including biology and mining and more. The largest problem is that there is little acknowledgement that plebes can be different. What will different produce? Why does gov't need to drive that? Plebes can do this better than gov't. tin.man > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 4:14 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > >> Respectfully, I do not agree. >> 1. Snopes.com has a protracted history of comparing applet to oranges and >> labeling it as "fact". Which they have yet again done in this link. The >> entirety of the rebuttal is focused on CO2 production in a "presumed >> volume" by "a " representative volcano. Further, the entire rebuttal is >> written around only CO2. Again.. apples to oranges called "representative >> fact", when the volume of gasses and emissions from a volcanic eruption.are >> composed from a large volume of multiple gasses and particulates, ALL of >> which have lasting effect of the "ecology". >> 2. The writers zeal to discredit a book lost in the dustbin of library >> science is easily exceeded by his/her need to prove his/her chosen >> dialogue, without proper scientific consideration of any material except >> CO2, which the scientific community at large freely agree is only one of a >> host of "greenhouse gasses" ... ie. Remember Freon? What happened to all >> the Freon which was making a hole in the ozone? How about sulfur dioxide, >> or nitro us oxide? How about the effect of millions of cubic feet of smoke >> and dust on the solar heating of the atmosphere? Just to list a few of the >> materials a proper scientific investigation would look at. >> >> Nice try, no cigar... Have some pepper jelly and a latte`. >> >> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 12:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> > Sorry - forgot the link. >> > >> > https://www.snopes.com/volcano-carbon-emissions/ >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 2:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < >> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > > Inconvenient truth, Grant. That is BS.. >> > > >> > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 1:40 PM, G Mann via Mercedes < >> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > > Inconvenient truth. There are currently 25 major volcanic eruptions >> > > around >> > > > the "Ring of Fire". Each day, ONE of those volcano produce more >> > emissions >> > > > of "greenhouse" gas than mankind has since the dawn of the "machinery >> > > > age"..... >> > > > >> > > > Sorry, mankind, you are just not that important, in the master scheme >> > of >> > > > things global. >> > > > >> > > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 10:53 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < >> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > The hypocrisy of the green movement is astronomical though. Al >> Gore's >> > > > > environmental footprint is massive. His platform appears to be YOU >> > need >> > > > to >> > > > > reduce so I can continue to spread the gospel. If we all lived like >> > him >> > > > > this world would be screwed. GW Bush lives a much more modest life >> > > which >> > > > > ironically was one of Gore's problems in 2000... >> > > > > >> > > > > Curt >> > > > > >> > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> > > > > >> > > > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 12:03 PM, Andrew >> > > Strasfogel<astrasfogel@gmail. >> > > > > com> wrote: Whoa. If he believes the climate is changing then >> that >> > > is >> > > > > a step forward. But to turn a blind eye to all the quantitative >> > > analysis >> > > > > that supports a clear link between human-generated greenhouse gas >> > > > emissions >> > > > > and a warming planet isn't really skepticism: it suggests a >> > > doctrinaire >> > > > > refusal to accept an inconvenient truth. >> > > > > >> > > > > OTOH, if Kurley has taken steps to reduced his personal carbon >> > > footprint >> > > > > then I don't give a F what he believes. >> > > > > >> > > > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 5:09 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes < >> > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > You are labeled a "denier" to associate you with holocaust deniers >> > and >> > > > > thus to label you as a nazi or nazi sympathizer. When this type of >> > > > verbiage >> > > > > is used in lieu of an argument based on facts and logic, you can be >> > > sure >> > > > > that the user doesn't believe that facts and logic will carry their >> > > case. >> > > > > >> > > > > That's what turns a discussion about current events into an >> exercise >> > of >> > > > > (the lowest form of) politics. >> > > > > >> > > > > Greg >> > > > > >> > > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-bounces@ okiebenz.com] On Behalf >> Of >> > > Curt >> > > > > Raymond via Mercedes >> > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 1:27 PM >> > > > > To: Mercedes Discussion List; Mercedes Discussion List >> > > > > Cc: Curt Raymond >> > > > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] LIST MOM Re: OT a little truth for the albore >> > crowd. >> > > > > >> > > > > I don't deny the climate is changing,I question who/what is causing >> > it. >> > > > > Why is it okay to label me a denier and remove my right to >> > skepticism? >> > > > > Curt >> > > > > >> > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> > > > > >> > > > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes< >> > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote: Dan, perhaps the climate deniers >> > > could >> > > > > take their show over to banned. >> > > > > >> > > > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 1:52 PM, G Mann via Mercedes < >> > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > My apology to anyone I have not yet offended. I assure you is was >> > > > > > oversight on my part. >> > > > > > ;)) >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >> < >> > > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Go trump. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Feb 24, 2018, at 12:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < >> > > > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > All right kids, let’s either stop or reign it in. 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