Perhaps the best "PEX" system is copper tubing??? New is not always better.

On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 12:05 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well, I got the copper plumbing cut out and the new PEX system turned on
> yesterday.  It all looked very pretty until I turned the water on.
>
> Freaking PEX joint leaks all over.    I used the clamps and brass
> fittings.   The "sharkbite" fittings scare me as the seal relies on an
> oring which WILL deteriorate.  I'd guess in 20 years you'd have to
> replace the fittings due to oring failure.   I have had some drips in
> Pex before, so on most joints, I used double clamps.   I still had a
> whole bunch of leaks and drips.   Sometimes after sitting overnight the
> drips will slow or stop. This morning the ones that were dripping last
> night, still are dripping.   This is very frustrating.
>
> I guess next time, if there is one, I should buy the expander and use
> the Sioux Chief fittings for expansion.  They have ferrules that are
> about twice as long as the crimp on PEX.   Before I started crimping, I
> thought about buying the ring (round) crimp tool, because I know that
> the bands often leak.  But since I already had the tool for the bands
> ($80) I did not want to switch.
>
> I want around with end nippers and tightend the crimps I could get to
> and cut off others and re crimped.  But there are still maybe 8 more
> that are still dripping.
>
> Also frustrating is the inlet and outlet threads of the manifolds are
> all leaking.  I have 4 manifolds, so 8 leaking threaded fittings.   THe
> manifolds are u-bolted to a piece of wood, then the wood is screwed to
> the wall.  I used teflon pipe dope on all threads, and they leak like a
> sieve.   My plan with those is to cut the pex band, take each threaded
> fitting off, clean it up and use rtv form a gasket, then reassemble. The
> other suggestion I got was to use teflon dope, the wrap with teflon
> tape.  The problem is the freaking chinee threads don't mate to the
> other freaking chinee threads.
>
> What is the best pex system?  the bands?  The expander?   Certainly the
> clamps are not the best, but it used to be the only type available.   I
> guess I could use traditional compression fittings with inserts.   I
> suppose that is the best.   and probably no more expensive that the $5
> or $10 each "pex" fittings.
>
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