Just hire these guys:

https://peacockhome.com/collections/kitchen-collections/refectory  

and spend as much as your house is worth on a kitchen!

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> On Mar 23, 2020, at 9:29 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Lowe’s and HD have like 3 grades of cabinets to order, price reflects the 
> case and hardware quality. Doors and drawer fronts tend to look the same, 
> might be the same. 
> 
> A friend bought some a few months ago. I went to Lowe’s with her and the guy 
> in the cabinet desk kinda walked her through it. She picked the best ones, 
> they were not particularly cheap but seem pretty good. 
> 
> She had this dumbass install them, a guy her dad uses, and he did a fairly 
> poor job. I too have built a lot of cabinets and I walked in and immediately 
> could see how poor his installation was. A shame after she spent the money. 
> 
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2020, at 8:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Most of the better cabinets are solid wood doors/face frames and “A” grade 
>> plywood cabinets. Yes, there are ones out there that are particle board but 
>> they’re typically the really low end stuff.
>> 
>> We had granite countertops in our last house and really liked them. I can’t 
>> recall breaking anything on them in the near 10 years we had them. Beat the 
>> heck out of these awful Formica countertops we currently have. Ugh.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>>> On Mar 23, 2020, at 8:35 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can't answer your question but most cabinets now are chipboard clad in some 
>>> kind of veneer.   They will not tolerate water.  My 1950s kitchen cabinets 
>>> were solid wood with plywood bottoms.  I just modified and painted them.  
>>> IMO, granite may be trendy but it's a poor material for a countertop.  
>>> Expect to replace a lot of dish and glass ware.  
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
>>>> Penoff via Mercedes
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 8:11 PM
>>>> To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>> Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com>
>>>> Subject: [MBZ] OT - Kitchen Cabinets
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah, this is waaaay off topic, but I’m reaching to find anyone with some
>>>> experience in this area…
>>>> 
>>>> First:
>>>> 
>>>> I am an accomplished woodworker who has built and installed kitchen 
>>>> cabinets
>>>> of my own design and making in both my and other’s homes. These were solid
>>>> hardwood raised panel cabinets built with European hardware of the highest
>>>> quality. In other words, I have a pretty good idea what makes a good 
>>>> cabinet
>>>> and what makes a fair cabinet.
>>>> 
>>>> We are preparing to replace the kitchen cabinets in the home we recently
>>>> purchased. It’s got the original builder’s quality spec grade cabinets 
>>>> that were
>>>> put in when the home was built in the late 1990s. I’m not making any
>>>> significant changes and will, for the most part, retain the same layout. 
>>>> Other
>>>> than a few changes, like replacing a desk with more cabinets and 
>>>> installing an
>>>> over the oven/range microwave, the new cabinets will be the same
>>>> dimensionally. This is good because they’re all common sizes. I’ll also be 
>>>> having
>>>> granite countertops installed on top of them, but that’s a whole ‘nother 
>>>> job.
>>>> 
>>>> I do not have the resources to build my own. Period. The basement full of
>>>> woodworking equipment I had when living in the GWN is long gone and can’t
>>>> be replicated. This resigns me to consumer grade cabinets, which isn’t
>>>> necessarily a bad thing. Here’s what I’m finding:
>>>> 
>>>> RTA cabinets - essentially knocked-down cabinets with the finished face
>>>> frames assembled but the cabinet itself not. These come flat and have to be
>>>> assembled by the installer. The less costly way to go, as you’re providing 
>>>> some
>>>> of the labor and they’re easier and less costly to ship.
>>>> 
>>>> Preassembled cabinets - just what they sound like - the cabinets and face
>>>> frames are assembled and shipped, ready to install. More expensive than 
>>>> RTA,
>>>> but labor saving.
>>>> 
>>>> There are loads and loads of online retailers selling cabinets, both RTA 
>>>> and
>>>> preassembled. Prices are very similar. Specs are much the same as are 
>>>> designs.
>>>> So the question begs, which way to go (RTA vs. preassembled) and what makes
>>>> one retailer better than the other? I swear these guys must be using all 
>>>> the
>>>> same tooling or manufacturer, as the variations in designs are minimal, if 
>>>> that.
>>>> In other words, everyone has the same products for the most part, from what
>>>> it seems.
>>>> 
>>>> My expectations are low. I know short of hiring a custom cabinetmaker I’m 
>>>> not
>>>> going to have the quality of cabinets I once made, but I’m OK with that. 
>>>> And I
>>>> don’t want to invest a ton of money in this, either, which is another 
>>>> reason for
>>>> foregoing a custom cabinetmaker.
>>>> 
>>>> So has anyone out there bought cabinets online, if so what type, from whom
>>>> and are you happy with them?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> -D
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