Even so, COVID deaths are dropping like a stone:  
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

NY and NJ quarantines are pretty funny when you compare NY/NJ deaths to the 
states they want to quarantine.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2020 7:49 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin <ka...@striplin.net>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The lack of evidence lockdowns actually worked is a world
> scandal
> 
> Except the number of deaths is highly inflated. You get shot, tested positive 
> for
> covid and die, your death is reported as a covid death. Heart attack? Same
> thing. This is the guidelines they have to follow from the cdc, or so has been
> reported in the media.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jul 7, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > A flu season that killed 150,000 people? Thats 5 times normal in 5 months.
> Oh and its not done yet, flu season got over with, the US is losing 1/30th of 
> a
> flu season to COVID every day...
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 6:22:37 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > If we never heard a word out of the media about covid I suspect we
> > would have just thought this was a bad cold and flu season.  In other
> > words, normal common sense would be to be good with hand washing,
> > covering your mouth when coughing, and stay home if you are sick.
> >
> > On 7/7/2020 5:16 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > > Curt, can you cite any peer reviewed study that indicates how much the
> risk is reduced by the general population wearing masks?  Sure, masks (and
> gloves and gowns) all work in a hospital setting to provide a good risk
> reduction for the imposed cost.  Don't forget the training for those workers.
> Got it, that's fine, no argument.  I don't live in a hospital, don't work in 
> one,
> please don't cite a study about hospitals.
> > >
> > > Let's follow the science.  Where's the study?  "Experts say" doesn't cut 
> > > it
> anymore, the so-called experts contradict themselves, especially on this
> question of masks.
> > >
> > > Jul 7, 2020 2:03:18 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
> > >
> > >> Yeahbut the problem is that my wearing a mask protects YOU. Your not
> wearing a mask increases MY risk...
> > >> So I'm polite enough to protect you from the germs I might be carrying
> but you can't be bothered to do the same. Thats brotherhood for you.
> > >> -Curt
> > >>
> > >> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 1:44:59 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via
> > >> Mercedes
> > > Max Dillon
> > > Charleston SC
> > >
> > >
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