I saw $1.99 Diesel yesterday.

On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 11:56 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  Speaking of low demand I've actually seen diesel prices start to sink.
> They sat at $2.59 from basically the beginning of the year. Gas prices fell
> $0.30 while diesel held constant.
> Recently I've seen diesel as low as $2.39. An annoyingly slow drop but its
> about time.
> -Curt
>
>     On Friday, September 18, 2020, 8:19:00 PM EDT, Clay via Mercedes <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>  We may be heading to the promised land of hydrogen.  The current viral
> unrest has caused a depression in fossil fuel demand, with a decrease in
> value.  With fuel hanging around $40 bbl there is no incentives to sink
> funding into production, exploration, or delivery.  Long term outlook is
> for continued very low demand for refining.  As the sale price goes up, the
> idled production comes back online which further depresses the prices.  It
> is barely break even to produce normal oil at $40, let alone shale or more
> complex plays.  Gas prices should remain down until refinery closes down
> and makes pump prices rise, but there is no way for that to translate to
> the rig pricing.
>
> All the glut of oil may be a prime time to crack the hydrogen out of it
> and fill tanks with water producing eco fuel.  Except the price for energy
> to crack it will go up.
>
>
> clay
>
> “I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our
> history, about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this
> general bout of self-recrimination and wetness.”
>
> B. Johnson
> 01/09/2020
>
> > On Sep 18, 2020, at 3:03 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > The problem with the diesels and NOx is that it's not possible to meet
> the standard.  With ANY diesel engine.  Bad standard, as the NOx isn't all
> that much worse than what's produced by gasoline engines, which also
> produce quite a bit of particulate pollution.
> >
> > The real solution for clean air is to turn the clock back to the 1930s,
> when we had integrated communities with work, schools, stores, and
> professional services close by and intelligent urban design that moved
> large numbers of people the same direction at the same time.
> >
> > We allowed GM, Standard Oil, and Goodyear Rubber to addict us to driving
> all time, which I'm coming to intensely dislike.
> >
> >
> >
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