I asked for a bid from my local Mercedes dealer (Yakima, WA) to replace the timing chain in my 1987 300D turbo, 300K miles. The first response I got was that it was not needed unless the timing chain was making lots of noise. I then told him, that as far as I knew, I should replace it because of the high mileage, that I didn't want to risk destroying the engine in case of failure. I asked for an estimate, and after 3 or 4 phone calls and 2 days time, he finally gave me one. He then, changed his story, telling me because of my mileage, I needed to change all the gears, sprocket, and related parts. The price of the parts was going to be $1200, and the labor was going to be $800. He then went on to tell me that all the years he had been with the dealership (he is the service manager, and has been there a long time) he has only known of 2 or 3 such replacements. I told him, well, I guess I won't be needing the work done, as, I surely was not going to be taking my car here. What I'm asking, is, would it be difficult for me to change the timing chain myself? I am somewhat mechanically inclined, and could take the car to a different shop to do the fine tuning of the timing and fuel pump. Is there any valve work that I should also consider while doing this? I have all the shop manuals for the car.
Anyone know of other good shops in the Yakima, Washington area that I could trust working on my 300D? Your help would be greatly appreciated, Richard Fine 1987 300D turbo From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu May 18 05:16:42 2006 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.176]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FgasM-0002jF-7e for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 18 May 2006 05:16:42 +0000 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id 57so539140pya for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 17 May 2006 22:16:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s¾ta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ahppdXeyM+FhUxjGDis9G/7LOvWKCWcp0fDQbH0e392f7uambCjwuJok9WcxwYfufhzGDEP1lYoA8aAv1bQfE5uRF6PfFy97XjVNTx9gXZAAaeC7LQ1tDjX7wzxUDtU+NMvbiv0Db5YTo3KXRNJ9+LigYqx3SwAKdzX92/gvr6sReceived: by 10.35.107.20 with SMTP id j20mr148249pym; Wed, 17 May 2006 22:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.49.3 with HTTP; Wed, 17 May 2006 22:16:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 00:16:40 -0500 From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Discount tires on-line X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 05:16:42 -0000 Thanks. As a follow-up, I wanted to ask the list: Does having the traditional tap-on style wheel weights on the outside of your allow wheels bother you at all? It really bothers me. I mean, you have this nice slick alloy wheel with this crude weight tacked onto it. I notice this when I look at a vehicle and I dislike it. Years ago I had Discount Tire use tape-weights on my Cragar Drag Stars for my old Dodge. They have not come off in over ten years. However these days, every place I've asked about them has told me no, you shouldn't mess with those. Brian 83 240D On 5/17/06, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Brian, > > Don't trust Midas........ If you haven't done so, loosen each lug > bolt and retorque to the proper ft/lbs or lbs/ft (whichever).... I > think 80-85 is recommended. Wiser minds will probably chime > in............ > > Some shops will use "torque bars" on their impact wrenches that (I'm > told) apply proper torque to the lugs. Never trusted them and always > requested the good old manual torque wrench...... > > Take care, > > Chuck > Phoenix AZ > > > On May 17, 2006, at 9:37 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote: > > > I thought that most shops had moved beyond using impact wrenches on > > wheels. > > But maybe that's just what they tell you if you ask. > > > > I bought some Fuzion tires from TireRack. Just wanted to save > > money. No > > complaints yet. Supposedly from the makers of Bridgestone. I only > > have some > > 5k mi. on them yet though. > > > > I had a hard time finding a place that would mount someone else's > > tires - > > especially for a decent price. A few places said they had a higher > > rate for > > doing tires they did not sell you. Of course, a few places gave me a > > different story each time I'd call. That is disturbing. > > > > The good news is that I found a nice source for inexpensive > > moutning/balancing. This will only help those of us in rural > > regions. The > > Farm and Fleet store. Here, it's called Fleet Farm. Of course, I > > imagine > > that they'd not be too sensitive to tourquing things properly. I > > didn't wind > > up using them, as I had an exhaust pipe fall off (not talking about > > the > > Mercedes) and thus had to take it in to Midas - they mounted the tires > > there. > > > > Brian > > > > > > On 5/17/06, P. D. Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> I bought Yokohama tires for my LandCruiser at Tire > >> Rack(good > >> prices, no sales tax) and had them installed at a new Super WalMart > >> (new > >> balancing machines) with lifetime balance and rotation for $7.95/ > >> tire(I > >> think they have since stopped doing this for tires not purchased > >> at WM) > >> and > >> watched through the window as the tech used a torque wrench to > >> tighten the > >> lug bolts. > >> Peter Ferguson > >> 1983 300TD > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "BillR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 7:36 AM > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Discount tires on-line > >> > >> > >>> I was surprised and pleased that the Sam's Club Michelins I > >>> bought for EM > >>> were finished with a torque wrench. Don't know about other > >>> places as I > >>> have > >>> only bought there for years. > >>> BillR > >>> Jacksonville FL > >>> 1981 300SD EM 275K with new and clear front and rear windshields. > >>> Almost > >>> 10 miles before the first rock hit the window. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> On Behalf Of OK Don > >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 11:10 PM > >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List > >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Discount tires on-line > >>> > >>> Since I don't want the wheels tightened with an impact wrench - I > >>> takes > >>> the > >>> wheels (all 4) off and take them to the shop for new tires. > >>> They don't have a clue which car they'er going on. Most will ask > >>> - so > >> tell > >>> them one that takes the tires you're buying. > >>> > >>> On 5/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>> Discount Tires has a good selection and prices -- I have a question > >>>> though - was in our local Costco and the guy there said they are > >>>> only > >>>> allowed to install the size specified by the manufacturer as the > >>>> original size. I have to go back for something else but will > >>>> stop in > >>>> the tire dept and ask if that a store policy or a state mandate. > >>>> > >>>> Has anyone run into this? The www.discountire.com website offers > >>>> several tire size options. Also, they seem to like Falken Tires > >>>> - has > >>>> anyone tried these? > >>>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> OK Don, KD5NRO > >>> Norman, OK > >>> "The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've > >>> exhausted > >>> all > >>> the alternatives." > >>> Sir Winston Churchill > >>> '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > >>> > >>> _______________________________________ > >>> http://www.striplin.net > >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http:// > >>> www.buymbparts.com/ For > >>> used > >>> parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________ > >>> http://www.striplin.net > >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> No virus found in this incoming message. > >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>> Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: > >>> 5/15/2006 > >>> > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________ > >> http://www.striplin.net > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > >> > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.striplin.net > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.striplin.net > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >