#4 birdshot in lead is 135 pellets per ounce. It's probably not deadly but a
load of it would have a STRONG deterrent effect. Within 5-10 feet of the muzzle
those pellets are all clumped together and will put serious hurt on whatever
you hit. After about 30 feet the pellets aren't going to seriously penetrate a
wall making it much safer for bystanders.
The average homeowner type defensive gunfight is going to be 1-2 shots at most
and is going to be highly panicked and, well lets say it'll be difficult. A
shotgun will give you 2 things, a much better chance of hitting the assailant
and a much smaller chance of hitting your neighbors through the wall of your
house. So on the whole its much safer for other good people and much less safe
for the bad guy...
-Curt
On Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 1:07:44 AM EST, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
Nothing except your kids is worth you or SWMBO getting seriously hurt or
killed over. I endorse motion lights and security cameras. They may provide
deterrence but don't mount cameras too high; it's hard to ID tops of heads
under hoodies. I use Ubiquiti Nanostation M5 RF bridges to link my barn and
house networks vs burying Cat5 (I'm getting about 500 Mbps right now). The
best gunfight is the one that never happens; things get out of control very
fast.
I think an AR (especially the pistol version) is better than a shotgun because
of magazine capacity (30 vs 5-7) but the user MUST be willing to use it
promptly and lethally or it will be used against your family. I started with a
20 Ga pump but I don't think my late wife would have been able to use it or an
AR, she wasn't very mechanical. By definition, home-defense firearms must be
ready to use but you need to decide that that means in your home. I live alone
now so that means full magazine plus one in the chamber but with the hammer
down, for pistols. I like a revolver for bedside because of simplicity in
difficult conditions (like groggy and dark).
There are some excellent reference books but I like "NRA Guide to the Basics of
Personal Protection in the Home", it's an oldie but a goodie. If an intruder
gets inside your home the basic process is ABC: Arm yourself, Barricade, and
Communicate (certainly 911 and maybe the intruder but only if he already knows
where you are). If your local cops are any good, let them clear the house;
that is not a safe one-person job. You need to tell the cops how to get in
(maybe hand them a key) and use the 911 operator to develop the situation
awareness for responding LEOs. The last thing you want is to be mistaken for
an intruder.
Children (or others) in the home requires serious safety planning; what works
with one kid may not work with another. I find the little Speedvaults very
handy for securing handguns in strategic locations but a curious kid could
crack the combo, given time.
Even though this event is over it is still worth discussing with your Sheriff.
For one thing, you want to meet the Sheriff to draw your own conclusions.
Also, if they are good, the intelligence that there were trespassers at a known
time and location could be useful.
Good luck.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 10:24 PM
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Cc: Kaleb Striplin <ka...@striplin.net>
Subject: [MBZ] Common sense seems to be lacking at home
I’m out of town. Wife called talking about how she stopped for gas in Tulsa and
the whole parking lot was full of the “undesirable” types. Soon a car comes
screeching up and some dude is waving a gun around. First of all, why the hell
would you stop somewhere like that for gas.
She then says they got back home about an hour ago and the kid was taking out
the trash. He runs in and tells the wife to grab her gun and get outside. He
heard voices. Sure enough she says she heard voices sounded like it was coming
from the direction of the barn. She is telling this story like it was no big
deal. I say you called the cops, correct. Nope, thought maybe it was coming
from the neighbors hours and by the time the cops got here they would be gone
anyway. We are on 20 acres so if you hear voices people are somewhere they
shouldn’t be. Wtf? So we have shit loads of cars around, a $30k tractor in
the barn and didn’t think maybe you should call the cops. Not the first time we
have had thugs around but it’s been a while. I guess now they will know it’s OK
because we will just run in the house and not do anything about it. I need to
install some motion lights and cameras over by the shop and barn.
Sent from my iPhone
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