The first time I hit $2,000 somebody in accounting freaked out. That was the 
first quarter and that was when I realized I needed more compute power for my 
VMs. I'd been using 8GB of RAM but the machines were very unhappy. I find it 
interesting that in my VMWare systems 8GB is adequate, something about Azure 
appears to be less efficient running the same software.
I should note that $2,000/mo is just for my classes, the guy who teaches the 
editing software uses way more, 16 processor cores and 128GB/RAM will do that.
-Curt

    On Saturday, June 19, 2021, 7:52:47 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:  
 
 We currently run an Azure environment. I’ve got a bunch of data scientists 
running their own environment in our tenant and they’re spinning stuff up 
daily. I’ve pointed out that every time they spin up a new instance of 
something the meter is running, but they don’t seem to care. Not sure who’s 
handling the accounting side of their stuff, but this just started a month or 
two ago, so I’m guessing they haven’t gotten the first invoice from Microsoft 
yet.

-D


On Jun 18, 2021, at 10:43 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
wrote:

Cap-ex vs Op-ex. When I first got out of college everything was supposed to be 
cap-ex. Buy hardware so we didn't have to spend people time on stuff. Now 
you're supposed to turn everything into op-ex. I've got a whole bunch of VM 
servers that would be great to train on but rather than getting me a $200/mo 
dedicated internet line we spend $2,000/mo in Microsoft Azure...
-Curt

  On Friday, June 18, 2021, 8:24:46 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:  


But eventually someone has to buy the cars, which is less likely if they are 
overpriced.


I'm sure it's some variant of the shit where they will pay more in operating
costs, often many times over, rather than do a better job up front, because
it would involve a slightly higher capital cost.  "Hey, not MY budget."  Even
if one corporate entity is who is paying ALL costs in the end.

So, how you rig the game will result in how successful it is overall, over time.
Ultimately I'm sure it's why big companies die, and small ones are formed.
They get ossified and inefficient, and the new small sharks swoop in and
eat the lunch, and eventually the carcass, of the big fish.  Ad infinitum.

-- Jim


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