The thing about A,I at the current state of the art, is that it can track
the location, actions, transactions, and communications of every "citizen"
24/7 AND develop automated loyalty scores (supported by a detailed dossier).
Spying on everyone in a way that would take millions of Stasi in the old
days, but AI massively reduces  the cost and risk of human agents..


Frank Herbert was ahead of his time with that.

I'm not a "believer" in computers or AI -- which is really a fast computer
and an ever-growing lookup table programmed to pattern match.  No
intelligence implied or intended, and it can go VERY wrong.  Facial
recognition and self driving vehicles are a case in point.


On Nov 4, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

> Frankly, I found some of the Brian Herbert prequels (like House Atraides
and House Harkonen) more engaging but probably only because I had already
read the later books.
> 
> Interestingly ( considering current trends) the theme that runs throughout
all of the series is a prohibition against "thinking machines" (what we
would call AI).
> 
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> I found it only really begins to make sense after you get through God
Emperor, as that tome lays out all the missing background of how the worms
work.  Dune is pretty much a comment on Iran/Iraq and big oil from 1919-1965
and exploitation by the west.  The next books in the series delve into the
mystical nature, with God Emperor and the next two trying to tie it up in a
neat bow.  The Brian Herbert books REALLY delve into the nuts and bolt and
expand the universe filling in nooks and crannies you can only guess at
their import in his father's writing.
> 
> clay 
> 
> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 2, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I think I will have to read the book now. It seems intriguing.
> 
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