is that true with MB diesels or only VW? On Mon, Feb 21, 2022, 1:56 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Newer diesels make a lot more power on less fuel than the older ones too. > The 2.0l in my Jetta makes around 145hp and that's with the de-tune from > VW. Compare that to 120hp out of the 3.0l 617 turbo. It also starts well in > deep cold. I've started it at -5F and it fired right up, no complaints. > > It'll also do 55mpg pretty handily, a 617 turbo dreams of 30mpg... > > I really like the look and feel of a W123 but my Jetta is a lot easier to > live with. > > -Curt > > On Monday, February 21, 2022, 01:50:15 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > I have had this feeling but not based on any real data. > > The older diesels are so simple. They just need fuel and good compression > and they will run. They don't need a computer, or even a working > battery/alternator. > > The complexity of the new diesels is all about reducing the particulate > emissions, something that gas vehicles really don't have to worry about. > > I probably would not buy a modern diesel car, as much as I like my OM617s. > > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022, at 1:31 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: > > I saw a 2012 E350 BlueTec, 103k miles, show up at a Subaru dealer here. > > Ran it to ground and in the process talked to the shop that performed > > all its services. The dude‘s shop makes its living servicing and > > repairing Mercedes’. We talked diesels in general and he revealed to > > me his love of older MB diesels. He told me the car in question is > > squared away. He told me everything he has done to it, he even sent me > > its complete service history. Then in the very next breath he told me > > that I should run away from “modern Mercedes diesels”. He has years of > > empirical data and it shows that people will spend almost exactly twice > > as much $$ to correctly maintain one of these “modern diesels” as > > people will spend to correctly maintain the gas version, same model. > > > > AZBob > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com