The basic principle is that anything happening in public (I.e., not your home/property that is not visible) is fair game for observation, monitoring , or whatever, unless there is a law to stop it. In SC speed cameras are not allowed to be used to issue speeding tickets, but I can use a radar gun to measure speeds of cars. First amendment rights allow me to do that as well as take photos etc.
Intercepting cell phone conversations requires a warrant I believe. --FT Sent from iFōn > On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Yea thats right, at least the ones the Sheriffs dept is installing were > free. I assumed it was some sort of SaaS model trying to get them hooked on > it. I really hate to say it but now days police seem to have very few > skills anymore as far as protecting and serving. They rely on technology > like this to do their job and appear to be unable to solve crimes without > somebody ratting somebody else out. Not to mention the ones who have no > business in this line of work who are rude at the least, to shooting and > killing people at the most. > >> On 3/21/2022 6:28 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> Plate readers have been around for some time. There’s a serious question >> about the legality of their use, with a lot of jurisdictions avoiding this >> by purchasing the data as a service and not buying the readers outright >> themselves. >> >> This is right up there with cell site simulators, a.k.a. “dirtboxes” or >> Stingray devices (Harris, Corp.) as they’re known in LE circles. >> >> I agree with the, “If you’re not doing anything wrong you shouldn’t worry >> about it”, but what worries me is the potential for misuse of the data and >> what controls (if any) are in place to protect it? With plate readers the >> jurisdictions that have been litigated against have arranged for data to be >> deleted after a fixed time, but that’s really not a resolution. I see where >> the deal in Tulsa is that data will be deleted after 30 days. I also note >> that the cameras are being installed for “free” by the vendor. In other >> words, they’ll get the local law enforcement worked up to want these >> permanently, then they’re locked in to this vendor. >> >> It’s much like the traffic camera scam - “We'll do this for you, handle all >> the backend work, and mail you a check for your 40% of what we take in every >> month.” >> >> -D >> >>>> On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Watching the local news, I see TPD is talking about these new plate readers >>> they are installing around town that sends an alert to the cops about >>> various things. Talked about placing them in the high crime areas aka the >>> ghetto. The other day saw the sheriffs dept was installing some too. >>> Without getting into a political discussion, I am not sure I really like >>> this idea at all. >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
