Exactly.

-D

> On May 28, 2023, at 5:07 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Yeah the best way to be sure it's right is to vacuum the system down to 
> empty, then recharge with the specified amount of refrigerant by weight. This 
> is what a good AC shop would do. If the system doesn't cool properly after 
> that, you have other problems.
> 
> Most of us at home probably don't have a refrigerant recovery system and I 
> personally prefer not to vent the refrigerant into the air, though logically 
> I know it's not enough to harm anything and technically it is illegal to do 
> so. So I just look at the pressures and add refrigerant (slowly) until they 
> look about right.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 28, 2023, at 15:26, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> AC is all about pressures and temperatures. It’s not something you can 
>> guess at and expect a specific outcome.
>> 
>> And just as an aside, I suspect the 10 degrees comment was an 
>> embellishment rather than an exact reading. These systems have a low 
>> temperature cutout that would shut off the compressor if the evaporator 
>> freezes or temperature gets below a setpoint.
>> 
>> There was a hack for the W126 chassis cars I used to do to mine:
>> 
>> The compressor cutout on these was a mechanical switch connected to a 
>> capillary tube that was positioned between the evaporator fins in the 
>> heater box. It’s easy to remove. I think they typically cut out at 40F 
>> or maybe slightly below that. You could recalibrate them by putting the 
>> capillary into a glass of crushed ice/water to get it down to near 
>> freezing. Using a test light or an ohmmeter, you calibrated the switch 
>> to open at the lower temperature.
>> 
>> Made a big difference in places like Florida, believe me!
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 28, 2023, at 3:50 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't think a car AC will ever blow as cold as 10 degrees F. How are you 
>>> measuring these temps?
>>> 
>>> One can is probably not enough to damage anything, but if you're worried 
>>> don't run the AC until you get a working pressure gauge, ideally a set that 
>>> measures low and high side pressures. Harbor Freight sells them.
>>> 
>>> https://www.harborfreight.com/r134a-ac-manifold-gauge-set-58776.html
>>> 
>>> You can then compare your readings to a chart such as this one.
>>> 
>>> https://jamcoautoparts.com/systempressuretroubleshootingchart/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, May 28, 2023, at 14:34, Robert Koziak via Mercedes wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>    I just went to charge my 2011 Mercedes C300.  The vents were 
>>>> blowing 45 degrees F so I knew it needed some R134.  The 134A adapter I 
>>>> used has a faulty gauge!  I used about one can and the vents were 
>>>> blowing 10 degrees F after I charged the system.  Did I overfill the 
>>>> system and should I let some out?
>>>>    Don't want to cause damage...............help!  I will buy a new 
>>>> gauge tomorrow and check.  
>>>>  Thanks in advance!
>>>> Bob K
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