So this makes me wonder what exactly might be wrong with it. All these
modules talk to one another, if one is unhappy all the others are
unhappy. MB techs' solutions are to start throwing (expensive) parts at
a problem when the solution might be simpler as I learned in working
with my buddy on the ML63 AMG ISM problem. He is a whiz with the
electronics/software and was telling me he often finds the problems are
fairly simple given his knowledge, and that the local MB stealer often
sends him their "unfixable" software issues to deal with, and he fixes
them. Unless someone has this knowledge to dig into the details of
these modules (which are all little computers) then just throwing a part
at the problem is the easy but expensive way out. Guys who actually
know how to deal with the problems are very few and far between.
So this is the dilemma with these newer cars, they are a rolling
collection of electronic modules controlling everything. I think I
counted 47 or 49 different modules in the 09S550. It's a wonder they
actually work as well as they do. A 123 or 126 is basically a stone age
car compared to these things. This is why I was able to buy a 15yo $90k
car for $2500, basically a 97% depreciation from new, and fortunately
had this guy to fix it. Or a $400E500, or a $600E320. There are a huge
amount of these things on FBMP and CL. Fortunately you have the money
and inclination to spend $3k fixing this car, most people would probably
just take the hit and leave it sitting at the stealer to be sent to
Copart or wherever.
As time goes on almost all these cars will reach this point where unless
you have the knowledge and patience and inclination to deal with
computers and software, they will unfortunately become disposable
(s)crap. Not good for owners' pocketbooks, the environment, and
manufacturers' reputations. But maybe good for some of us who are
willing and able to resurrect them.
Good luck with the repairs.
--FT
On 9/28/23 9:53 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote:
Update. Repair estimate at Mercedes Dealer
$2850.00. Not sure pdf of estimate will send but the repair looks fairly
complicated. I’m splitting the cost of repair with my son.
Issue is locked steering wheel and no crank /start.
Steering Lock Module - $505
Ignition Switch- $735
Program 2 keys - $270
Labor - $1224
Involves removing entire steering column.
This really makes me appreciate my W123’s
https://pdf.asrpro.com/PDF/?q=nOGDsjbVny7m5euCJZTmMy907WkLOEoVh67GRtBaRuuyh%40mKq%40XKixdUKXwzaLG44dO%402LLkw0oycuedP8ic%2fFaVtBmtgMmH2M0DuS1b6sb0aP%40amsd7UQ6SS4GKxHUVGzEzhbNdioec2ucZ124LSBnEi1f3SOr%40U%2fg8slYK2hA4s7f1K0e88CzF6ANHjgJ9hQW3CPRP4jxfKcP%2fuAs%40ycLhHgKBkDASrlM%2fJUlWH1nAlUHoqwRgRiiH0evcbXFl%2fTwL32du3gmkaPMBphaIZ73zBx30YTltf5yYD%2ftJJhjUfk%40eho4K%408d1g8oM9%406%2fvDP1l7ePAukjEqAx1Df%2fPZ%2fLvAgYARRSg5r9aKjG97UQ6ybplK7tKg%3d%3d
Michael E. Esh
On Sep 24, 2023, at 1:55 PM, Michael Esh<[email protected]> wrote:
Jumpstart did not help. From watching some vids it appears to be an ELS
(electric steering lock) issue. It seems to be in locked position and
according to vids it is a $2000 repair from Mercedes. I’ll call dealership in
the morning.
Michael E. Esh
On Sep 23, 2023, at 6:27 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes<[email protected]>
wrote:
The first thought is the battery. EIS likely locks the steering column with a
solenoid, so no power, no unlock. The battery could have enough juice to run
the radio but not the rest of the car. Once voltage falls below a certain point
stuff either gets wonky or just doesn’t work.
Good luck, let us know how it goes.
-D
On Sep 23, 2023, at 6:23 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes<[email protected]>
wrote:
Fairly new to us 2013 Mercedes C300. Son purchased a couple of months ago.
About 150,000 miles on it.
Not sure why but it will not turn over. He parked it at the mall and when he
came out it would not fire up. Steering wheel is in lock position and turned
to the far right and does not unlock when key is turned. Is the steering lock
supposed to release with key or when the car starts? The key turns all the way
in the ignition but there is zero response, no clicks or sounds. The battery
seems to be working as the radio works normally.
Any thoughts about what we might check or trouble shoot before we call the tow
truck?
Thanks, Mike
Michael E. Esh
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