The OM251 has the timing chain at the rear. I have heard they have a problem 
stretching and breaking.


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> On Dec 16, 2023, at 11:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Oil cooler issues have never arisen in either my E250 or GLK 250.  This is
> only a problem in the 6 cylinder models, e.g. ML 350 Bluetec..
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 10:17 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I agree, an older mechanical diesel is still desirable but the newer ones
>> with DEF and emissions crap and computers required to run them I would
>> avoid. They are really only suitable for drivers who need to make frequent
>> long highway trips. If you're driving infrequently and/or on mostly short
>> errands they are the wrong choice.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, Dec 16, 2023, at 17:36, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Or simply stick with a gasser.
>>> 
>>> I mean really is there the old school advantages to having a diesel any
>>> more, especially it you look at things like oil cooler seals and DEF
>>> crapola?
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
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>>>> On Dec 16, 2023, at 2:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Forgot to mention, stick to pre 2009 e class or pre 2008 ML/GL to
>> avoid DEF.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 16, 2023, at 1:30 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is a metric crap load of BlueTecs for sale out here right now,
>> many of them reasonably priced.
>>>>> Steer clear?
>>>>> I watched a video from Hoovie’s friend, The Wizard. He  maintains,
>> that among Mercedes SUVs, your best choice it’s a 2012 ML 350.
>>>>> The search for a replacement for my pick up is going to be deliberate.
>> I’m not entirely convinced that I need a pick up truck, especially if I get
>> some type of an M class with a hitch you can always borrow or rent a
>> trailer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here we go.
>>>>> 
>>>>> AZBob
>> 
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