My '85 300SD has the 617 engine, right?  I don't believe there is any
theoretical limit to its longevity.

On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 7:57 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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> yes great list of diesel engines. I have had 616, 617, & 602.
>
> On Sun, Dec 17, 2023, 7:22 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Seems like OM615, 616, 617, 601, 602, 603 and 606 are the way to go…..
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Dec 17, 2023, at 9:23 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > The OM251 has the timing chain at the rear. I have heard they have a
> > problem stretching and breaking.
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Dec 16, 2023, at 11:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Oil cooler issues have never arisen in either my E250 or GLK 250.
> > This is
> > >> only a problem in the 6 cylinder models, e.g. ML 350 Bluetec..
> > >>
> > >>> On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 10:17 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I agree, an older mechanical diesel is still desirable but the newer
> > ones
> > >>> with DEF and emissions crap and computers required to run them I
> would
> > >>> avoid. They are really only suitable for drivers who need to make
> > frequent
> > >>> long highway trips. If you're driving infrequently and/or on mostly
> > short
> > >>> errands they are the wrong choice.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Sat, Dec 16, 2023, at 17:36, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> > >>>> Or simply stick with a gasser.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I mean really is there the old school advantages to having a diesel
> > any
> > >>>> more, especially it you look at things like oil cooler seals and DEF
> > >>>> crapola?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> AZBob
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Dec 16, 2023, at 2:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Forgot to mention, stick to pre 2009 e class or pre 2008 ML/GL to
> > >>> avoid DEF.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Dec 16, 2023, at 1:30 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> There is a metric crap load of BlueTecs for sale out here right
> > now,
> > >>> many of them reasonably priced.
> > >>>>>> Steer clear?
> > >>>>>> I watched a video from Hoovie’s friend, The Wizard. He  maintains,
> > >>> that among Mercedes SUVs, your best choice it’s a 2012 ML 350.
> > >>>>>> The search for a replacement for my pick up is going to be
> > deliberate.
> > >>> I’m not entirely convinced that I need a pick up truck, especially if
> > I get
> > >>> some type of an M class with a hitch you can always borrow or rent a
> > >>> trailer.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Here we go.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> AZBob
> > >>>
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