What is the point this list? I was under the impression that it was to disseminate information about Mercedes. So when some one says something that is blatantly wrong, those of us who recognize the error are supposed to sit by and watch? Steve asked why 2 of his 123's start in second, and 1 starts in first. So I replied:
"Mercedes has offered too many transmissions in too many different cars to unilaterally say what gear a given car will start in. I think a 79 240D should have a 722.117 and the 83 300D should have a 722.315 and both SHOULD start in 2nd gear. The 85 CALIFORNIA version should have what is essentially a 201 chassis tranny in a case that fits in a 123 - I believe this would be a 722.416, but either way, it SHOULD start in first gear. A Federal 85 should have the same 722.315 as an 83." Kaleb, however, decided I was wrong, and "The 123 and 126 turbo cars start in FIRST" Except then Tom Hargrave, Jim Cathey and Peter Frederick all made mention of cars that violated Kaleb's decree. OK Don went on to quote his 115 Chassis manual making mention of "1st. gear can be engaged only by means of kickdown" ie, second gear starts. Then Kaleb tried to show he was right by twisting his own words and saying "they start in 1st, as I have said many times already. The part about them sitting in 2nd is correct, they sit in 2nd till you start moving, but start in first." Wait, did manage to contradict yourself twice in the span of two sentences? And then Mitch Haley goes on to say the W116 Service book states 300SD's start in second. Then Mike Canfeild decided to tell me I'm wrong, by saying that non-turbos start in second gear. Interesting - what did I say to contradict that? Then Kaleb fesses up to 116's starting in 2nd. Hmmmm.... So I make an effort to provide some actual facts behind what I, and EVERYONE ELSE has been saying. I don't see anyone else who has made the effort to post anything remotely official, other than saying that I am wrong, then backing it up evidence that furthers my point. There has yet to be a single post from anyone other than Kaleb giving any reasons for my being wrong - most people agree with me. But everyone says I'm wrong because Kaleb does. You guys have spent too much time on eBay, and now its you guys that are smoking the crack. This is just ridiculous, Mike On 10/23/06, Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
on 10/23/06 9:16 AM, Michael Hall at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Or the underlying belief by many on > this list that he [Marshall, no Kaleb] was essentially God, which must get > boring after a while [as apposed to Kaleb, who thinks he's God but most > people don't agree, so he's entertained trying to prove he is].
