The more pressure exerted by the spring in the injector, the more fuel
pressure it takes for the injector to fire. It takes more Time to
develop higher pressure. Time = Timing.

Hook an injector up to a pressure tester, change the shims and see for
yourself.
Am I missing something?

-Dave Walton

On 8/12/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Timing is 100% controlled by the IP & the injector is just a poppet valve.
>
> Weak spring pressure affects the spray pattern, not the injection timing &
> this causes the clatter.
>
> Another failure is a leaking injector which can leak fuel into the
> pre-chamber during the intake stroke & cause nailing.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
> 256-656-1924
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of dave walton
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 4:27 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] thoughts on diesel clatter
>
> My experience has been that diesel clatter is caused by weakening of
> the spring in the injector. That causes it to fire at a lower
> pressure. Eventually it injects the fuel so prematurely that it
> ignites while the piston is still on the upstroke.
>
> -Dave Walton
>
> On 8/11/07, John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well since my 500SEL is busy having a rebuilt transmission installed
> > I was forced to cart four people across the rockies up the Coquihalla
> > Highway  5 to 8% grade for nearly 3000 feet of altitude in the 92
> > wagon.  For reference the OM603 will only do 75 mph flat out up the
> > 8% grade, water temp rose from 85C to 100C.  That and another 500
> > miles of mountain driving and 250 miles of flat land.
> >
> > After all this my wife noticed the clatter is *much* louder at idle,
> > much more clatter/bearings bouncing/burbling kinda noise.
> >
> > I wondering if I knocked loose lots of carbon (mind our normal
> > driving over the last 40K miles has been highway), and it's causing all
> > this racket? Well that or blew a exhaust gasket (don't think so) or
> > muffler joint.
> >
> > PS Saturday night in a unnamed rednecked city, never seen so many
> > chipped dodge ram 3500s. When they stomp the throttle at the
> > intersections, billowing clouds of black diesel smoke, same on the
> > highway, mind at 80 mph it's lots of roar and smoke, not much
> > acceleration, no need to check blind spots you sure can hear them.
> >
> > John
> > 1983 300TDt  385k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
> > 1990's 300TDt  202k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
> > 1993 500SEL 194k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
> >
> >
> >
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