OK, thanks.  I will continue to eagerly await my turn.
BillR

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes

I have you on my list, dont worry, but no I still do not have one yet

Bill R wrote:
> SLAPS SELF ON FORHEAD.  Thanks Kaleb - Yes, I have been talking about the
> Fair Tax proposal for long enough that I forget there is also a flat tax
> idea.  That one I am not for, the Fair Tax proposal I would support.
> BTW - Taken apart any decent 126 front seats lately? I still need that
> spring set for the seat, and the other stuff if you have it. 
> BillR
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 3:35 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
> 
> What you are talking about sounds like the fair tax, not the flat tax. 
> With the fair tax, everyone gets a prebate on necessary items purchases, 
> based of family size.
> 
> Bill R wrote:
>> As a self described liberal who supports a flat tax, you need to look at
> it
>> more closely.  There is a rebate of the tax for the $$ amount of the
> federal
>> poverty level.  If you make no more than that [and hence spend no more
> than
>> that] you really are not paying any tax as the tax on necessities has
>> already been given to you and everyone else [a prebate, if you want to
use
>> the term].  Tax is collected only on final consumer sales, so personal,
>> corporate and business to business sales are tax free.  No more IRS, no
> more
>> inheritance tax, no more tax of any kind except for a tax on a sale to
the
>> consumer.  Buy a lot, you pay a lot of tax; buy a little, you pay little
>> tax.  I suspect many of our corporations who have moved offshore would
>> return, and there would be no advantage to setting up an account offshore
> as
>> there is no tax here.  No tax loopholes, no tax shelters.  I am sure
there
>> would be some problems with it, but compared to what we have now it
should
>> be less.
>> BillR
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 3:51 AM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>>  I am all for a flat tax. I will give away my mortgage deduction
> (TurboTax
>>>  always points to standard deduction anyway, so why be buying a house?)
> if
>>>  everyone would pay x% of income (NO loopholes) in taxes.
>>>
>>>  Let's say 5%. if you make $20K a year, you pay 5%. If you make
>> $10,000,000 a
>>>  year, you pay 5%.
>> Do the other Democrats know you feel this way?  Have they tried to
>> kick you out of their tree house yet?  ;)
>>
>> Seriously, I've never heard anyone else who was a self-described
>> liberal support a flat tax.  Quite the opposite---it's usually the pet
>> project of people who are unabashedly in the pocket of big business
>> (e.g. Steve Forbes).
>>
>> Isn't a flat tax as regressive as you can get (short of charging a
>> percentage inversely proportional to income)?  It hits the poor a lot
>> harder than the rich, surely.  In your example above, 5% of
>> $10,000,000 means one less condo in Lake Tahoe, new Bentley for the
>> mistress, or splurge in Vegas... big deal.  But 5% of $20K means
>> Grandma doesn't get her heart medicine, or the kids don't get new
>> winter coats. BIG deal.
>>
>> Alex Chamberlain
>>
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