Just too expensive to install right now. My cost would be $25K or more as I 
would have to drill deep and that means
drilling rock and is more expensive. If I had lots of land it would be no 
problem but on a small city lot there
just is not sufficient room. They tell me I would need something like 15 to 20 
holes 50 feet deep spread at least
10 feet apart and I just don't have that much room. I would never likely save 
enough to make it pay back at current
rates. It would take 10 years or more and by the end of that time I understand 
I might be facing renewal or
replacement of at least some of the equipment so it just does not quite work. 
If I had acres, I could dig trenches
and lay in a loop. My aunt and uncle did that 20 years ago and have been very 
happy with it. They have replaced the
heat exchanger once already.

Randy

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Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] fat man in the heat question


Ground water heat pumps work, even in MI or Canyada, because rather
than relying on -20 outside air, they use ground temps, usually about
54 degrees, and thus operate in the heat pump's efficiency range.

At 01:57 PM 5/23/2008, you wrote:


>LarryT wrote:
> >
> > Heat pumps are *very* efficient compared to oil
>
>Heat pumps are about 3x as effective as electric resistance heaters.
>This drops with evaporator temperature, by 17 degrees F the ratio
>is about 1:1 (you put in a BTU of electricity, you get out a BTU of
>heat). This is great for virtually all your heating needs in Florida,
>and still slightly useful on a sunny winter day in Michigan.
>
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