Hi Bill., ;-) Trust me, given a little time I could crank out 2000 words on the assault on religion in this country - from the strangly interpreted "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" to the presently accepted view of "Complete Seperation of church and state" which is being intrepreted as a complete divestiture of any mention of God or religion when it comes to govt. I (who knew) have a different viewpoint - that being the framers of the Constitution meant exactly what they wrote!
And of course, we must wonder why is it acceptable to teach school children about the muslim culture but teaching the same about Christian culture would bring down the wrath of the ACLU. It used to be college freshmen entered college as Christians and graduated as atheists after their professors' skewed agenda to make them question all values of their parents and religion. Since Christianity is based on *faith* it's not difficult to change someone who may be susceptible to change and make them question that faith because there is no "proof" when it comes to faith. If God were to appear in the sky one day and say, "Look at me - I'm here & I'm real, and you'd better be good if you want everlasting life!" we would lose all free will - we would have to believe - no more freedom of choice would exist. God expects more of us - and of course, we're capable of more. But I'm sure no one wants another lengthy dissertation from me -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The New World Order (WAS june 4, 1944) > <<<<<<<and even got a soapbox moment > regarding religion.>>>>>> > > Many good issues raised, but I'll let more qualified folk address them. I > couldn't help but notice your religion section was conspicuously > circumscribed in speaking of what was banned and more than a bit short on > why. . > BillR, been going to church since I was a kid... and who gets irritated > when > religion is used as a club. > > Amazing............... > On 6/11/08, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Mitch wrote <<I don't know who/what to blame for the >> apparent changes in our culture, but the public education system >> >> >> I believe there is a multi-pronged attack on the capitalist system. >> Education is high on the list as our youth are moved away from basic >> education and spend more time collecting signatures on petitions, doing >> environmental awareness programs and field trips & generally becoming > little >> activists rather than students. And of course, many of their teachers >> are >> young having just completed their education by socialists and marxist >> professors - and haven't had time to regain their core values if there > were >> any. >> >> Also, religion has been steadily changing and some advocate "updating" >> things like the Ten Commandments to make them more current. Then there's >> the problem with the Bible flatly stating being homosexual is morally > wrong >> and of course many, such as the ACLU dislike that little problem. > Speaking >> of the ACLU - formed by a devout marxist who only wish is to tear the >> country down - they fight for things like burning the flag, calling $hit > on >> canvas "Art", defending Nambla (N.American Men-Boy Love Assoc) which > openly >> advocates sex between adults and children and even provides instructions > in >> abduction. They fight for all those absurdities but will not get >> involved >> in protecting the 2nd Amendment. >> >> Back to the education system - at some point the basics of reading was >> changed - from phonics which always works perfectly to another systm >> which >> teaching reading my memorizing words - so new words are unrecognized and >> students become poorer and poorer readers the older they get and the more >> complex their reading became. I witnessed this 1st hand as I went thru >> grades 6-12 in Va. I had been taught to read in SC using phonics and >> read >> well by soundingout unfamiliar words and understanding their meaning by >> their context. Around 80% of the kids around me in Grades 6-12 were >> terrible readers - I'm talking about being in High School and reading at >> a >> 2nd grade level! And this inability follows them their whole life - > making >> any education a huge chore for them. I still remember them struggling >> through simple paragraphs when forced to read aloud during class - each > word >> was a challenge - *unless* it was one they recognized. And naturally >> this >> handicap followed them into every future activity they might choose. >> >> Another attack comes in the huge increase on the dependence on various >> govt departments for income and/or support of various kinds. The number > of >> people who get paid by the govt has exceeded 50% - this creates a > continuous >> dependence on govt for finances. >> >> Also there is an effort by the MSM to create an environment where >> self-dependance is frowned upon. It is very evident in UK already where >> anything that might be used for defense against criminals are outlawed. >> People are not expected to defend themselves and by extension should not > be >> self sufficient in other areas of life. Depend on the govt for finances, >> defense of self and property (dial 911) and place all other needs in the >> hands of the govt. >> >> Finally (probably not - I'm surely forgetting something) there's the >> environmenal movement. What started as a noble thing has become a thorn > in >> the side of American economics. As more animals, fish, flowers, etc and >> their habitate become protected the more land we lose to use as we wish. >> Even homeowners are prevented from developing their property as they want >> due to govt environmentally driven regulations (think wetlands - which we >> used to call swamps). This is a huge topic as it potentially puts a > weight >> around the neck of so many capitalist activities forcing a slow-down in > our >> economic system which in-turn reduces our standard of living, and on and > on. >> The environmental movement has even taken their agenda into darkest > Africa. >> Developers wanted to build a power plant so people could have running > water >> in their homes (or huts, whatever) because power is needed to power well >> pumps. Without power the people are forced to go to the public well or >> local river - which has its own dangers - hippo's and crocs still kill > many >> people there and the water is not always clean and may be used as a > cistern >> and washing machine by others peoples upstream. The villagers wanted the >> power plant, the developers wanted it but the environmental group claimed > it >> would exploit the people living there (by giving them jobs, money and > clean, >> running water). I suspect this thinking started with DDT being banned - >> which ended up killing millions of people in 3rd world countries when the >> availability of inexpensive poison to control mosquitoes disappeared. > Think >> about that figure - millions die of malaria and other mosquito borne > disease >> every year. >> >> Meanwhile, the environmentalists have managed to keep oil exploration >> from >> drilling new wells for years particularily off the Atlantic and Pacific >> coasts as well as Anwar. Meanwhile, a China/Cuba group is drilling just >> outside of the US Inter'l Limit not far from Cuba. This along with our >> inability to build safe, clean nuclear power stations (and us not >> building >> any refineries) for 30+ years is creating a US that is dependant on many >> countries who hate is intensely - yet they enjoy taking our money to find >> terrorism and other things. >> >> With a comprehensive energy policy where nuke power stations are built, > coal >> shale is transformed into fuel, more wells are built along both coasts >> and >> the gulf of Mexico as well as drilling in Anwar - All together we would >> be >> very close to energy independent. That assures our country as a economic >> success in a world of failing socialist countries. >> >> One more thing - this countries African-American (scratch that - they >> are black Americans - there's nothing about Africa to rate a mention) >> community is being destroyed - with ~70% of children born out of wedlock, >> much of the remainder being raised without a father figure around and of >> course, drugs and violence. In the cities where the most change is >> needed >> they keep trying the same old programs. In virtually all major cities >> with >> large urban areas of drug induced blight gun laws make it very difficult > if >> not impossible for law-abiding people to possess a gun to protect > themselves >> from the wolves that prey on them. Tell them to call the police when >> they >> get robbed/mugged/assaulted/etc and they will laugh at the absurdity. >> But > a >> simple, inexpensive handgun (aka Saturday night specials) is denied them >> along with the ability to defend themselves and stop the violence. >> Meanwhile the black leaders like Sharpton, J Jackson, etc get face time >> on >> TV to make sure their pockets get filled everytime there's a tragedy or >> crisis as they call for the same old remedies that have failed for 40+ >> years. >> >> BTW, why does the black community *need* "Leaders"? The jewish >> community doesn't need them, the Irish or German communities don't need >> them - neither does any other ethnic group - why black Americans? >> >> OK, time to stop. >> >> >> Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) >> www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts >> Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil >> PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net >> 800-583-8601 >> Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 7:12 AM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] June 6, 1944 >> >> >> > LarryT wrote: >> >> I wonder what the world would be like if we were in the same situation >> >> today? >> >> Fighting Hitler and Tojo at the same time and kids could not volunteer >> >> fast >> >> enough. >> > >> > I used to think that the draft was pointless. If we really need to go >> > to >> > war, >> > the men will be there. If your government wants your youth to die so it >> > can >> > police the planet, then the government needs fixing. Now I read the >> > newspaper >> > and wonder if USA has any men left. I don't know who/what to blame for > the >> > apparent changes in our culture, but the public education system sure >> > isn't >> > helping. >> > >> > Mitch. >> > >> > _______________________________________ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
