On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:29:01 -0500, you wrote:

>>This frankly makes me wonder how much longer there will be a place in
>>GIMPS for slower machines.  I'm not saying that's a bad thing - after
>>all, 486s and original pentiums were the workforce when GIMPS began,
>>and I wouldn't feel comfortable with the amount of opportunity for
>>error involved in using one for GIMPS now.
>
>I have been working on this project for about five years now.   My first two 
>years with a 486DX266, and now with a Cyrix 266.   My computer works fine 
>for now, and I do not need any more power (and I lack 2k-3k to invest in 
>video games)   I have worked on trial factoring, and have received little 
>credit on the LL testing page.   I hate to think that my faithfulness and 
>determination on this project will be overshadowed by passer-by's with 
>hotrodded gaming machines.   Isn't this project about the power of numbers 
>rather than the strength of one?   Lets face it, RC5 type projects are just 
>guess-my-number with a big number, and SETI is just looking for the 
>nonexistant.   I always saw this project as a promotion of better 
>programming and a way to raise awareness of fun in mathamatics.   I just 
>hope it does not become a ruler for peoples' computing <ahem> masculinity 
>while bumping the people who put it where it is.
>
>Brian
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I don't see it that way at all.  My point in posting the message was
to consider how long /any/ older machines - including my own Pentium 3
- will be able to really contribute.  

I'm sorry if I upset you - I just thought I'd mention the implications
for /all/ of us who don't have the latest hardware.  As an aside, your
Cyrex 266 is about 3 times as fast as the "original pentiums" I
refered to as being obsolete, so I think there's a definate
distinction - and hopefully will be for years yet to come.  

Even a 486 could still be used for trial-factoring, or for ECM, which
would take such a machine roughly fifteen minutes in some cases.  As
regards RC5 and SETI, I believe I started a discussion on that issue
when I first arrived on the list (late January 2000, IIRC).  You might
find that discussion interesting - especially the manner in which some
of the senior GIMPS members responded to me.  

Nathan
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