> On June 13, 2013, 11:44 p.m., Vinod Kone wrote:
> > src/master/master.cpp, lines 248-251
> > <https://reviews.apache.org/r/11206/diff/6/?file=304917#file304917line248>
> >
> >     Why do we always want to allow a default role?
> 
> Thomas Marshall wrote:
>     We did this to minimize the impact of these changes on people who don't 
> care about roles or hierarchical allocation, but I agree that we don't always 
> want a default role. Maybe the solution is to add the default role if no 
> --role flag is present, and then allow people who use roles to turn on the 
> default role by including a '*' in their --roles flag.
> 
> Thomas Marshall wrote:
>     Ben and I talked, and we're going to leave the default role turned on all 
> of the time. If people don't want it, they can set all of the resources on 
> all of the slaves to be reserved for specific roles (which they would have to 
> do anyways without a default role) and get the same effect, but we figure 
> most people will want the default role most of the time precisely because it 
> doesn't require you to mark all of the resources in the entire cluster with a 
> specific role.
> 
> Vinod Kone wrote:
>     I am mainly concerned about the possibility of disallowing a default 
> role. I though the roles were ever gonna be specified on the master's cmd 
> flags. But sounds like there is a complementary role flag for slaves that 
> allows us to disable the default role? I guess thats in a different review?

TL;DR; I don't think we'd ever want to disallow a default role.

Having a _special_ "default" role (i.e., '*') enables launching frameworks 
without requiring reconfiguring the master. I don't think we want to configure 
reservations for every possible authenticated user. Rather, if a user runs in 
the "default" role they can be allocated whatever resources are available to 
the default role (which may be none!) without requiring some human intervention 
first.


- Benjamin


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On June 18, 2013, 9:12 p.m., Thomas Marshall wrote:
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> (Updated June 18, 2013, 9:12 p.m.)
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> 
> Review request for mesos and Benjamin Hindman.
> 
> 
> Description
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> 
> Previously when we were doing hierarchical allocation by user, we created and 
> removed user pools for allocation based on what users had frameworks 
> currently running in the cluster. However, with the role abstraction it makes 
> sense to have more persistence than that, especially once we add weights - if 
> you set the weight for a role, you want the allocator to remember it even if 
> there aren't any frameworks for that role currently running.
> 
> So, I decided that it made sense to create a concept of specific roles that 
> are allowable in the cluster. With this patch, its only possible to pass 
> roles in to the master as a command line flag (to ease what I assume will be 
> the common case - clusters with relatively static sets of roles), but a 
> future wdrf patch will add http endpoints to add, remove, and update roles.
> 
> This patch also enforces that frameworks register with valid role (this won't 
> affect people who don't care about roles, since there's always the "*" role, 
> which is the default for frameworks that don't specify a role).
> 
> 
> This addresses bug MESOS-504.
>     https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-504
> 
> 
> Diffs
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> 
>   src/master/allocator.hpp 78c75bb 
>   src/master/flags.hpp f4ce8c1 
>   src/master/hierarchical_allocator_process.hpp 1048a28 
>   src/master/master.hpp 86c5232 
>   src/master/master.cpp 60c6d4f 
>   src/messages/messages.proto 2c196ee 
>   src/tests/allocator_tests.cpp 32f0a90 
>   src/tests/allocator_zookeeper_tests.cpp 1daaecd 
>   src/tests/mesos.hpp fca41aa 
>   src/tests/resource_offers_tests.cpp 3d5f02d 
> 
> Diff: https://reviews.apache.org/r/11206/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
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> 
> make check
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Thomas Marshall
> 
>

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