Hi Mike, > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:meta-xilinx- > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Looijmans > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 10:36 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [meta-xilinx] Why no support for FSBL? > > There are many reasons we moved away from the FSBL flow. The *main* reason is > that we encountered various bugs (the FSBL worked okay on the evaluation > board, > but once we made our own module with different pinouts and support chips, the > bugs started to appear). With the FSBL being non-free software ("free" as in > "freedom", not "free beer") we could not fix these issues ourselves.
Again not aware of history here, embeddedsw code (including FSBL/PMUFW) is available on github, we can address any breakages or even take patches to fix them. > > A big issue with non-free software is that in say five years a customer will > return to > us and ask "hey, can you do this small addition". Chances are that the tools > we used > will no longer run on the machines we have then, and in many cases, it will be > impossible to revive the licenses. And we will have no way of fixing that, > other that > putting our current machines in the fridge along with the software. > > Does a standalone/baremetal distribution would work in this case? As I have stated earlier we are open for suggestions on how to improve the process for our customers. Thanks, Manju > > On 30-11-17 19:57, Manjukumar Harthikote Matha wrote: > > Hi Mike, > > > > On 11/28/2017 01:09 AM, Mike Looijmans wrote: > >> The "open source" way is to avoid the FSBL (and in fact, all of > >> meta-xilinx-tools) and use u-boot SPL instead. All functionality > >> provided by the fsbl/bootgen flow is provided by u-boot SPL already. > >> > > > > "All functionality" would be a blanket statement, there are many > > driver support that is officially tested by Xilinx in fsbl/bootgen > > flow, including safety and security support > > > > Thanks, > > Manju > > > >> > >> On 20-11-17 22:08, Peter Smith wrote: > >>> Hi, I’m aware of the meta-xilinx-tools layer, but this needs you to > >>> have the Xilinx SDK installed (unless I’m mistaken), I was wondering > >>> ion there were any plans to create support in meta-xilinx for > >>> building the FSBL without the need for the SDK dependency. Peter > >>> > >>>> On 20 Nov 2017, at 21:05, Giordon Stark <[email protected] > >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi (resending from right address), > >>>> > >>>> You can indeed build the FSBL + boot.bin using the > >>>> meta-xilinx-tools > >>>> layer: https://github.com/Xilinx/meta-xilinx-tools > >>>> > >>>> Giordon > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 3:03 PM Peter Smith <[email protected] > >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> A question, I was wondering why there is no support for > >>>> building FSBL in > >>>> a similar way to that provided by meta-xilinx for the PMU > >>>> firmware, is > >>>> there a technical reason or is it just one of those things that > >>>> has not > >>>> yet been got around to? Thanks in advance Peter. > >>>> -- > >> > >> Kind regards, > >> > >> Mike Looijmans > >> System Expert > >> > >> TOPIC Products > >> Materiaalweg 4, NL-5681 RJ Best > >> Postbus 440, NL-5680 AK Best > >> Telefoon: +31 (0) 499 33 69 79 > >> E-mail: [email protected] > >> Website: www.topicproducts.com > >> > >> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Kind regards, > > Mike Looijmans > System Expert > > TOPIC Products > Materiaalweg 4, NL-5681 RJ Best > Postbus 440, NL-5680 AK Best > Telefoon: +31 (0) 499 33 69 79 > E-mail: [email protected] > Website: www.topicproducts.com > > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail > > > > _______________________________________________ > >>>> meta-xilinx mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>>> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/meta-xilinx > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > -- > _______________________________________________ > meta-xilinx mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/meta-xilinx -- _______________________________________________ meta-xilinx mailing list [email protected] https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/meta-xilinx
