On Thu, 1 Dec 2005, Dotan wrote:
I did tell YOU about the archives. I do not know of anyone else who had
any trouble using mailing lists.
Naturaly you don't, that's the result of using mailing list to comunicate -
you don't comunicate with people that don't use mailing lists.
I can be reached by phone (my number on the website), by e-mail and by
ICQ, in addition to mailing lists. I am not your slave.
The readers are welcome checking who involved was he thereafter (Ok, Ok,
don't
bother the answer is - he wasn't).
I cannot force people to become involved. More than 90% of the members
and
friends of Hamakor were not involved in w2l. There are many lazy people.
Ram wanted to help but he didn't get the option to do so because you couldn't
and yet can't understand he doesn't use mail (despite the wierd solution of
givving him an address), accusing him of lazyness is not even funny.
Does he have a physical disability using e-mail? What's the big difference
between logging in to gmail, which is on the WWW and logging in to a forum?
If you or he expects me to specifcally use a different forum to contact him,
then excuse me I do not need his "help". It simply isn't worth it copying
each and every message to your forum instead of having him read it himself.
I will not hire a person for the full-time job of copying messages to your
forum, nor will I volunteer for this job. I am still not your or Ram's
slave.
I didn't talk of W2L I talked of the web archives and I did advertise JLCs
W2L series on FOSS related sites (you might want to check which club has its
coming events on the events boards in Whatsup, Linmagazine and IGLU, you may
also check which club had ads in the Tapuz and Nana forums prior to it's
series opening and the instaparty. BTW in Tapuz it was some tech forum that
made my announcment sticky and not the Linux forum)
So, you took care of your own interests, when you could have invested
exactly the same amount of effort to advance the W2L series for all clubs.
It seems that you are more interested in your own personal success than
advancing free software in Israel. Way to go!
The web archives are not "my interest" - its Hamakors interest and as you
stated some posts ago you are by far a great supporter of it.
I put ads on things I'm involved in but I wouldn't steal your credit buy
You mean you wanted to push your own actions but didn't want to give any
publicity to things others are doing, and didn't want to give me any credit.
advertising the web archives my self and to be true I realy didn't
undersatnd why you didn't ad it
I do not and cannot go and put ads in forums which I have no access to for
every small step I take. Ads either cost money, or require the person or
orginization running the site to support running the ad. I think it's silly
creating graphics and running an ad campaign for a small technical change
that no one is interested in.
but addopting Hamakor spirit I favored waiting to be addressed then
initiating a move.
No, that's YOUR spirit. I did so many things for Hamakor that it's not
even funny. I spend more than 4 hours per day on Hamakor matters. You didn't
"advertise" the archives because either you are lazy, or you don't really
think you can convice forum managers to put a graphic that says "Hamakor
mailing lists now archived on the web".
And BTW I'm too not a slave, and it feels good :)
Then stop treating others that way.
Alon
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