please remove me from the list -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 1:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Digest metacard.v003.n145 -------------- BEGIN metacard.v003.n145 -------------- 001 - andu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Re: Apache no more: Metacard server and and Metacard CGI's? 002 - Scott Raney <raney@metaca - Re: Video Format Support in MC 2.3? 003 - Peter Reid <preid@reidit. - Aborting Animations 004 - Jacqueline Landman Gay <j - Re: Shared kudos plus various 005 - Jacqueline Landman Gay <j - Re: Shared kudos plus various 006 - Phil Davis <phildavis@hom - Re: Shared kudos plus various 007 - Phil Davis <phildavis@hom - if the network is the computer, is MC the network? 008 - Richard Gaskin <Ambassado - Re: if the network is the computer, is MC the network? 009 - andu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Re: if the network is the computer, is MC the network? 010 - John Johnston <jhj@dircon - Re: Shared kudos plus various --------------- MESSAGE metacard.v003.n145.1 --------------- From: andu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Apache no more: Metacard server and and Metacard CGI's? Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:07:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, you wrote: > OK progress, I've ditched Apache for now and have got the Metacard server up > and running on Linux. Serving HTML works but can't get the echo.mt cgi to > work yet. > > I think this is probably because the root for the server is: > > /root/mc23/mchttpd > > and the root for the Metacard app is: > > > /root/mc23 > > so if the .mt script work like perl etc I guess the first line should be: > > #!/root/mc23/mc > > But not sure. > > By the way, will the server work with Perl CGI's etc? It should work with any scripts, I have to double check though(later on tonight). You just have to add the suffix to the config file in Settings. --------------- MESSAGE metacard.v003.n145.2 --------------- From: Scott Raney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Video Format Support in MC 2.3? Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:11:47 -0700 (MST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Peter Reid wrote: > I was very pleased to see that MC 2.3 supports QuickTime on Win and > Mac platforms, but wondered whether this is in addition to any native > format such as AVI for video and WAV for sound? > > Whilst I'd like to use QuickTime across platforms, some customers > (such as the ones I'm working with at the moment) don't and won't > have QuickTime, only pure Microsoft stuff, hence my interest in both > AVI and WA formats. > > So, does MC 2.3 give me both QT and AVI/WAV? Yes. There are significant restrictions on what the new player control can do with the MCI API (due in turn to limitations in what the VfW (Video for Windows) player can do). But if all you want to do is play/pause/stop like you could with 2.2, you're covered even if the system doesn't have QT installed. Regards, Scott > Best regards > Peter > -------------------------------------------------------- > Peter Reid > Reid-IT Limited, Loughborough, Leics., UK > Tel: +44 (0)1509 268843 Fax: +44 (0)1509 264986 > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web: http://www.reidit.co.uk > ******************************************************** Scott Raney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.metacard.com MetaCard: You know, there's an easier way to do that... --------------- MESSAGE metacard.v003.n145.3 --------------- From: Peter Reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Aborting Animations Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 00:13:50 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" I've been developing a CBT package that includes animated demonstrations of the use of some software. The animations have been programmed to include the following elements: - automated mouse movement - automated text input - automated button clicking - automated field scrolling - voice-overs - appearing and disappearing elements, etc. The whole idea is to give the impression of an unseen human guiding the user through various processes. A key feature is the ability for the user to abort a given animated demo. I tried doing this by encapsulating each animated demo in a 'try' statement and telling the user that they could Ctrl+dot to abort a sequence part way through. However, whenever the user aborts during the playback of a voice-over segment an error dialog appears. This also happens during non-sound parts of the animation but in a less predictable fashion. In the end the only way I could get round the problem was to resort to the "deprecated" approach of setting the 'lockErrorDialogs' and handling the 'errorDialogs' message. This worked fine and allows immediate termination of sound segments as well as all the other elements. Any ideas why the 'try' method didn't work, especially with sound? Also, can anyone suggest a more appropriate or elegant approach? Best regards Peter -------------------------------------------------------- Peter Reid Reid-IT Limited, Loughborough, Leics., UK Tel: +44 (0)1509 268843 Fax: +44 (0)1509 264986 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.reidit.co.uk --------------- MESSAGE metacard.v003.n145.4 --------------- From: Jacqueline Landman Gay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Shared kudos plus various Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:53:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Johnston wrote: > Have you discovered any HC friendly approaches to the program? (if you > feel like sharing) Unfortunately, learning MC has been a steep and painful experience. I think the main problem for me has been that it is similar enough to HyperTalk that I expect it to act like HyperCard -- and it doesn't. The differences are mostly subtle and insidious, except for the few that are blatantly anti-intuitive. I think the user interface is one of the worst I've ever seen. I don't know any easy way to learn the program really, except to just wade in and expect frustration for a while, I guess. Adequate documentation would help a lot, but it doesn't exist. The thing that has helped me the most has been reading the MC mailing list. There is a lot of useful information there. > On the HC front, i posted a letter to S. jobs with a copy to the list > recently and thought you might (in confidence) like to know Kevin Calhoun > mailed me asking what kind of drag'Ndrop I wanted in HC! Flabbergasted, I > replied all sorts/any kind. He did not reply to that mail, but I am > hoping it is a good sign? Interesting. I don't know what it means, but I probably wouldn't read too much into it. Kevin has never given up on HyperCard and has been fighting internally as hard as we have been fighting externally. Maybe he has something up his sleeve, though we shouldn't speculate. Don't feel bad that he hasn't answered you -- that's pretty much his style. He gets mountains of email and tends to avoid as much of it as he can. Congrats on the web debut of ScreenCloze -- Fletcher Hosmer had only good things to say about it, and said the program helped "his" kids a lot. You've probably figured out that he was the guy who commissioned the Simple Adding and Subtracting Machine too. Jacque -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Custom hypermedia solutions | http://www.hyperactivesw.com 612.724.1596 | 612.724.1562 - fax --------------- MESSAGE metacard.v003.n145.5 --------------- From: Jacqueline Landman Gay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Shared kudos plus various Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 22:12:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oh god. Needless to say, that last note was a personal reply; I had no idea it was going off to the list or I would have been much more circumspect. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Custom hypermedia solutions | http://www.hyperactivesw.com 612.724.1596 | 612.724.1562 - fax --------------- MESSAGE metacard.v003.n145.6 --------------- From: Phil Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Shared kudos plus various Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:29:50 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> One thing for sure - the MC dev environment *does* have an interface only an engineer could love ;-) Jacqueline Landman Gay wrote: > > Oh god. Needless to say, that last note was a personal reply; I had no > idea it was going off to the list or I would have been much more circumspect. > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > HyperActive Software | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Custom hypermedia solutions | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > 612.724.1596 | 612.724.1562 - fax -- Phil Davis ------------------ [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------- MESSAGE metacard.v003.n145.7 --------------- From: Phil Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: if the network is the computer, is MC the network? Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:48:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dream mode: With MC's new socket support added to all its other capabilities, I wonder what kind of creatures we can now build... can we extend the message-passing hierarchy from Portland to Helsinki? Can MC go beyond being an application platform, and become a network platform? In a way, a stack has always been a micro-network. Food for thought. Can you "start using" a stack that's known to MC only by its URL? -- Phil Davis ------------------ [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------- MESSAGE metacard.v003.n145.8 --------------- From: Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: if the network is the computer, is MC the network? Date: Thu, 18 Nov 99 21:19:15 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Dream mode: >With MC's new socket support added to all its other capabilities, I >wonder what kind of creatures we can now build... can we extend the >message-passing hierarchy from Portland to Helsinki? Can MC go beyond >being an application platform, and become a network platform? In a way, >a stack has always been a micro-network. > >Food for thought. Tasty dish. What a feast.... - Richard Gaskin Fourth World Multimedia Design and Development for Mac, Windows, UNIX, and the Web _____________________________________________________________________ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 Fax: 323-225-0716 --------------- MESSAGE metacard.v003.n145.9 --------------- From: andu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: if the network is the computer, is MC the network? Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:44:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, you wrote: > Dream mode: > With MC's new socket support added to all its other capabilities, I > wonder what kind of creatures we can now build... can we extend the > message-passing hierarchy from Portland to Helsinki? Can MC go beyond > being an application platform, and become a network platform? In a way, > a stack has always been a micro-network. > > Food for thought. > > Can you "start using" a stack that's known to MC only by its URL? I got scared by similar thoughts ;-) I think you can "start using" but in an indirect way. Security is my main concern in matters like this though. > -- > Phil Davis > ------------------ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------- MESSAGE metacard.v003.n145.10 --------------- From: John Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Shared kudos plus various Date: Fri, 19 Nov 99 06:38:08 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" on 18/11/99 10:42 pm John Johnston ( a complete idiot) wrote: > >Hi Jacque, > >I saw your post on the metac sincere apologies for this personal mail hitting the list. John Johnston --------------- END metacard.v003.n145 ---------------
