--On Friday, June 06, 2003 15:02:52 -0700 Alain Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello David, Andu, and y'all,
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That's odd! My experience is exactly the contrary.
Blogs are like un-threaded forums. The messages just
pile in one after the other, most recent one on the
top.

That's the thing, blogs are not meant to be forums (and I noticed the link you provided is just that) they are closer to a public journal so to speak (http://mental.archeopterix.com). I've seen proper weblogs with several members but the entries were more like short essays, not a conversation. For conversations you have mailing lists or forums.


Wikis, OTOH, are more like a
editable website. The content is divided into
hyperlinked pages. The info becomes hierarchically
organized (a good thing) without sacrificing any of
the hyper-linking to any other page or site. The
knowledge being built with the wiki has a stable feel
to it, and bits of it can be subsequently tweaked as
many times as you like; whereas, in blogs, only the
admin has the power to modify the content of the
contributions.

Weblogs are not supposed to be edited in the way wikis are because... they are not wikis.



What I don't like about wikis, or rather the ones I have used so far, is that the web interface is the *only* way to interact with the wiki; whereas the blog can also be mailed to or accessed by any XML-RPC client. But I have since discovered that there are wikis that also do XML-RPC. Without this 'automation' potential, making global changes in a wiki is a nightmare. You literally have to go to each-and-every page as any 'user' would. Which is why I am still interested in systems like Zope. A global change of a footer on [a subset of] all pages is a cinch with Zope : all you have to do is change one file in the appropriate place in the object hierarchy.

I don't get it, you want to read the wiki in a browser but to edit it in a different application, why use wiki. The thing with the footer is just a matter of design, you can have the script insert a footer in all pages as they are served. I'm not a friend of html but I recently discovered the potential of css (kind of late, I know) and I do believe that good design can make a difference. Zope is great but it comes with a learning curve.






Regards, Andu Novac
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