Hi Richard and all,
Klaus Major wrote:There's an outstanding request to fix an issue in the engine with regard to pasting images:
Currently, pasting an image from the Clipboard causes one
...
The question for us is whether we should maintain the purity of the MC IDE by using the engine's Paste command as it does now, or favor usability by implementing the workaround script from RR....
"Necessary" is the only question. We can't determine how long this legacy bug with image pasting will remain in place, so if we want improved behavior it seems more productive to do what we can with what's in hand than wait for an unknowable possibility down the road.We CAN of course, if necessary. ;-)
So do we really want this behavior? I'd find it useful, but I'm not sure if that's a universal desire;
Same for me...
maybe some folks like the current behavior (can't imagine it, but HyperCarders sometimes have the strangest habits and this behavior seems to play into the only-one-bitmap HC paradigm).
Mr. Miller once promised (yes, he did!) to NOT touch anything in the engine, so we "friends of Carlotta er Metacard" will not experienceOn the contrary, with this specific issue he's fulfilling that promise to a fault: the engine's always had this anomaly, and RunRev has thus far preserved the behavior perfectly. :)
any incoveniences...
But it looks like that his memory i fading... :-/
Ooops, sorry, did not know this, apologies to Kevin (in regards of the image part)!
Yes, they lack resources (actullay i heard this one much too often and cannot stand this argument any longer!!!) but WE cannot tell this toI've sent some of my customers to the Apple feedback page for bugs in OS X that affect WebMerge. But Kevin's a much nicer person than Jobs, so I wouldn't do the same with RR.
our customers, i think...
Sure, but a fact is a fact...
So the question is will Rev support the engine fully or not resp. "tweak" its IDE to "balance out" some engine inconsistencies?I'm not clear on why so many engine issues are addressed only in their IDE scripts, but since I work on the MC IDE and neither the engine nor their IDE it wouldn't be productive for me to conjecture. My job is just to get the best results I can with what I have to work with at the moment, and leave the learnability of the Rev IDE to its keepers.I don't think things are quite so dire. Consider how long this behavior has been in place, and that the BZ request to update it was posted only in December '04.Yes, i AM a bit upset :-) Especially if there are so many serious(!) and pending bugs and we have to hear something like "...upcoming features/news that will change the way of using Rev completely", as Mr. Miller stated in the chat last week, then i DO feel a bit pissed... :-)
I felt "a bit pissed" in general ;-)
And please take my little "cursing" not too serious (see the little smilies?)
It is just that i feel better immeadiately once i wrote it down! :-)
I have no doubt that there may be some nifty things in the works, and I understand how they can be useful in driving new sales. But I also agree with the pervasive feeling expressed in all corners of RunRev's community that cleaning up language orthogonality and tightening up some behavioral loose ends will do more for their conversion rate than anything else.
At least you know what i mean :-)
But their conversion rate doesn't line my pocket so my time is best spent focused on the task at hand:
Should we consider this proposed script change, or let the old behavior stand?
For me: leave as is...
And Klaus, relax. If you let other people's performance affect yours you'll become grouchier than a barking Texan. :)
I am relaxed, see above, just saving the money for an analyst... ;-)
PS: I saw a documentary recently on Klaus Nomi, and while I realize you have nothing in common but the first name
EXACTLY, i don't sing soprano nor am i an "uomo extravaganzo" :-) (At least not in public :-D
if you're old enough to remember Nomi
Yep ;-)
it's a wonderfully nostalgic film: <http://thenomisong.com>
-- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___________________________________________________________ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com
Relaxed greetings from (still cold) germany
Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de
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