Pat you asked, Pat
>
>
> Are finds made before the 'new' rule exempt of the selling/bartering
> requirement?
>From what I read on the blm sites in the past and told by one blm officer that
>was in effect before this memo was sent. It just that the rules were so vague
>that almost all the offices had their own rules this new one spells it out
>clear which is in some ways good but they keep tightening the noose.
Bryan Couch Wildomar Ca
Dare to fail
On Sep 30, 2012, at 8:48 PM, Pat Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Norm and the List,
>
> Norm, I agree with you that for those of us who are not interested in selling
> the
> meteorites that we find on BLM land the 'new' rules are not a problem. In
> fact the
> new rules explicitly grant ownership (with some limits about selling or
> bartering)
> of the first 9.999 pounds of meteorites to the finder.
>
> The general rule stating that 'the meteorite belongs to the land owner' could
> easily be
> interpreted as all meteorites found on all federal lands belong to the US
> government.
> This 'new' rule says that with some limitations the meteorite belongs to the
> finder.
>
> For the professional hunters who want to profit from their finds, there is a
> clear route to
> be able to be able to do so. I hate bigger government and more rules in
> general. However,
> if I were to sell, I would want to know that I could do so without a
> governmental claim of
> ownership. Yes, there is some paperwork and delay.
>
> Just my 2 cents worth.
>
> Best Regards,
> Pat
>
> Are finds made before the 'new' rule exempt of the selling/bartering
> requirement?
>
> ----------------------------------------
>> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:17:21 -0700
>> From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [meteorite-list] New BLM regs: Tempest in a teacup?
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I have been following this thread with great confusion, and maybe there IS
>> something I don't understand. Meteorite collecting has previously fallen
>> under
>> the general rules of rockhounding, and the new changes merely formalize a
>> specific policy that is no great change from the past rules. I am quite sure
>> I
>> will be hugey chastised for my ignorance. Please correct me if I missed
>> something.
>>
>> The previous rules said 25 pounds and/or one rock. Now it's 10 pounds and no
>> provision for the big one with respect to meteorites. How often will that
>> actually afect us? Almost never. The use of motorized vehicles off marked
>> roads is also a general policy, not just for us. Metal detectors are
>> explicitly
>> allowed. Surely a magnet on a stick is also still fine.
>>
>> Commercial exploitation of BLM ground is subject to a long standing
>> guideline.
>> Find a monster? It is only fair that the land-owner (all Americans) should
>> get
>> some benefit. This is no change. If you want to harvest building stones or
>> ornamental boulders, you pay a fee. We will too. No real change.
>>
>> I see no great disaster here. Just a formalization of a specific policy,
>> thanks
>> (?) to our own loud self-promotion in its various forms. Of course they had
>> to
>> get explicit. It is not much more than a clear, specific, restatement of the
>> rules we were all subject to before now. Or did no one understand this? Yes,
>> they may choose to make their point by prosecuting someone, but I will be
>> amazed
>> if this involves changes in the law. Just enforcement of those already
>> extant.
>> At worst with fairly minor changes.
>>
>> Have at it. I am waiting to be reprimanded for my folly. What am I missing?
>>
>> Best,
>> Norm (www.tektitesource.com)
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