The guy that has it for sale just posted that he actually was the one to find it.



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-----Original Message----- From: Mark Bowling
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 8:21 PM
To: meteorite-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook

I agree with Jason, it doesn't look quite right.

It's always hard to tell from photos, but if it looked this way in person, I would not have guessed Holbook. If someone cleans/shines them up, it can really change the look of them.

I've found a lot Holbrook and seen a lot taken in the field, and I thought I knew them well. But I was surprised a few years ago at the difference, when I saw one cleaned with chapstick just hours after being found in front of many witnesses. I had to adjust my thinking (I've always left mine as found, dirt and all, and I'm glad I have).

But even so, that doesn't really change the thickness of the crust. It just looks strange - it could be a Holbrook that's been handled a lot, like being carried in a pocket (???).

Unless you really trust this person, I'd stay away, but that's just me (the seller could be on the up and up).

Mark

P.S nice finds Jim!




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From: jason utas <jasonu...@gmail.com>
To: Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook

Hello Jim,
I see finely textured crust with surface rust.  Looks like a Holbrook.
I think the lighting of the photo on facebook is throwing you off.
It's quite different.
Regards,
Jason

On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Jim Wooddell <jimwoodd...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Jason!

So what do you think about this one?

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa325/desertsunburn/IMG_3252.jpg
which is a Holbrook found on the 99th Anniversary of the fall.

Jim




On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:22 PM, jason utas <jasonu...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello All,
Texture's completely off.  Newly found Holbrooks can be weathered. but
always show a discrete layer of fusion crust that has not been
mechanically altered much since 1912.  Surface rust, yes.  Places
where it has chipped off, yes.  Contraction cracks...usually.

But, little abrasion -- certainly not extensive sand-blasting.

The stone pictured has been desert-varnished to the point that it has
"remnant-crust," or a layer of thin-to-non-existent fusion crust,
which, as Mendy notes, is similar to the weathering seen on NWA's.

If it's a Holbrook, it's a find from a unique area where the stone has
weathered differently from...any other Holbrook I've ever seen.

A real one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LARGE-11-4-gram-HOLBROOK-METEORITE-ABOUT-90-CRUSTED-/221144642054?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337d3f7206

Note the fine detail still present on the crust.

And again:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LARGE-18-6-gram-HOLBROOK-METEORITE-ABOUT-50-CRUSTED-/221144641606?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337d3f7046

Jim Steele is also offering "Buzzard Coulee, Ash Creek, Mifflin and
Park Forest."  Anyone want to try to get some photos?  He could have
purchased the Holbrook/other stones, so not trying to point any
fingers here.

Kudos to Mendy for spotting this one - completely missed it.

Regards,
Jason



From: Michael Blood <mlbl...@cox.net>
Date: Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook
To: Mendy Ouzillou <ouzil...@yahoo.com>, Meteorite List
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>


I am pretty sure Steve Shoner has found more
Holbrook than anyone on the list...
Steve....whaddayathink? Of is a photo insufficient
To form an opinion?
       Michael

On 10/25/12 8:31 AM, "Mendy Ouzillou" <ouzil...@yahoo.com> wrote:

There is a large 53.3g Holbrook being offered for sale on Facebook that
looks a bit weird to me. The seller, Jim Steele, states that he found it in 1998. I do not see contraction cracks or other features that I associate with "recently" found Holbrooks. It looks like an NWA to me. I know there are true Holbrook experts on this list that could instantly tell, so before I call BS on this offer, I'd like to get a second or third opinion. I know not everyone on this list is on FB, so if you do not have a FB account, I can email you the picture. In case this is real, please PM me and based on
responses, I will let everyone know the verdict.
http://on.fb.me/P5n9xR
Regards,

Mendy

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