Great points Jason. I have a "Bouse" in my collection next to an 869, which has come to be a great conversation starter. The caution flag has certainly been raised and I think we've all been respectful of the "finder". For me there are too many great Holbrooks available to take the risk on this one. I'm curious to see other photos.
Happy Friday!!! Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: jason utas <[email protected]> To: Meteorite-list <[email protected]> Cc: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:42 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook Hola, Everyone should have the benefit of the doubt, but I'm awaiting other photos. Even stones like Bouse and those "Mifflins" had to have a "finder." At the moment, nothing more than suspect. It could have been cleaned strangely or just be a very odd Holbrook. But...when things stick out, it's best to be cautious. Regards, Jason > From: Mark Bowling <[email protected]> > Date: Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:32 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook > To: meteorite-list <[email protected]> > > > I guess we stand corrected... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stuart McDaniel <[email protected]> > To: Mark Bowling <[email protected]>; meteorite-list > <[email protected]> > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 5:30 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook > > The guy that has it for sale just posted that he actually was the one > to find it. > > > > > ***************************** > Stuart McDaniel > Lawndale, NC > Secr., > Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society > > IMCA #9052 > Sirius Meteorites > > Node35 - Sentinel All Sky > > http://spacerocks.weebly.com > > ********************************* > -----Original Message----- From: Mark Bowling > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 8:21 PM > To: meteorite-list > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook > > I agree with Jason, it doesn't look quite right. > > It's always hard to tell from photos, but if it looked this way in > person, I would not have guessed Holbook. If someone cleans/shines > them up, it can really change the look of them. > > I've found a lot Holbrook and seen a lot taken in the field, and I > thought I knew them well. But I was surprised a few years ago at the > difference, when I saw one cleaned with chapstick just hours after > being found in front of many witnesses. I had to adjust my thinking > (I've always left mine as found, dirt and all, and I'm glad I have). > > But even so, that doesn't really change the thickness of the crust. > It just looks strange - it could be a Holbrook that's been handled a > lot, like being carried in a pocket (???). > > Unless you really trust this person, I'd stay away, but that's just me > (the seller could be on the up and up). > > Mark > > P.S nice finds Jim! > > > > > ________________________________ > From: jason utas <[email protected]> > To: Meteorite-list <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:49 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook > > Hello Jim, > I see finely textured crust with surface rust. Looks like a Holbrook. > I think the lighting of the photo on facebook is throwing you off. > It's quite different. > Regards, > Jason > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Jim Wooddell <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Jason! >> >> So what do you think about this one? >> >> http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa325/desertsunburn/IMG_3252.jpg >> which is a Holbrook found on the 99th Anniversary of the fall. >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:22 PM, jason utas <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hello All, >>> Texture's completely off. Newly found Holbrooks can be weathered. but >>> always show a discrete layer of fusion crust that has not been >>> mechanically altered much since 1912. Surface rust, yes. Places >>> where it has chipped off, yes. Contraction cracks...usually. >>> >>> But, little abrasion -- certainly not extensive sand-blasting. >>> >>> The stone pictured has been desert-varnished to the point that it has >>> "remnant-crust," or a layer of thin-to-non-existent fusion crust, >>> which, as Mendy notes, is similar to the weathering seen on NWA's. >>> >>> If it's a Holbrook, it's a find from a unique area where the stone has >>> weathered differently from...any other Holbrook I've ever seen. >>> >>> A real one: >>> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/LARGE-11-4-gram-HOLBROOK-METEORITE-ABOUT-90-CRUSTED-/221144642054?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337d3f7206 >>> >>> Note the fine detail still present on the crust. >>> >>> And again: >>> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/LARGE-18-6-gram-HOLBROOK-METEORITE-ABOUT-50-CRUSTED-/221144641606?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337d3f7046 >>> >>> Jim Steele is also offering "Buzzard Coulee, Ash Creek, Mifflin and >>> Park Forest." Anyone want to try to get some photos? He could have >>> purchased the Holbrook/other stones, so not trying to point any >>> fingers here. >>> >>> Kudos to Mendy for spotting this one - completely missed it. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Jason >>> >>> >>> >>>> From: Michael Blood <[email protected]> >>>> Date: Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:37 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook >>>> To: Mendy Ouzillou <[email protected]>, Meteorite List >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am pretty sure Steve Shoner has found more >>>> Holbrook than anyone on the list... >>>> Steve....whaddayathink? Of is a photo insufficient >>>> To form an opinion? >>>> Michael >>>> >>>> On 10/25/12 8:31 AM, "Mendy Ouzillou" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> There is a large 53.3g Holbrook being offered for sale on Facebook that >>>>> looks a bit weird to me. The seller, Jim Steele, states that he found it >>>>> in >>>>> 1998. I do not see contraction cracks or other features that I associate >>>>> with "recently" found Holbrooks. It looks like an NWA to me. I know there >>>>> are true Holbrook experts on this list that could instantly tell, so >>>>> before >>>>> I call BS on this offer, I'd like to get a second or third opinion. I >>>>> know >>>>> not everyone on this list is on FB, so if you do not have a FB account, I >>>>> can email you the picture. In case this is real, please PM me and based >>>>> on >>>>> responses, I will let everyone know the verdict. >>>>> http://on.fb.me/P5n9xR >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Mendy >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Visit the Archives at >>>>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Visit the Archives at >>>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> ______________________________________________ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> >> >> -- >> Jim Wooddell >> [email protected] >> 928-247-2675 > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list [email protected] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list [email protected] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
