Logic versus accepted terminology versus practicality.
I like the conciseness of Fall versus Find - It's easier to fit and write on a specimen card. :-) An unobserved fall may never become a find. Mendy Ouzillou >________________________________ > From: Anne Black <[email protected]> >To: [email protected]; [email protected] >Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] >Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 5:27 PM >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day > >Every single meteorite ever found on Earth is necessarily the result of >a fall, they are not native to Earth. The only difference is that some >falls are seen, witnessed, and some, the vast majoriry, are not. > >So calling them Observed or Unobserved falls is logical. That is what >happened to all of them. >That is simple reality. > > >Anne M. Black >www.IMPACTIKA.com >[email protected] > > >-----Original Message----- >tFrom: hall <[email protected]> >To: Michael Farmer <[email protected]> >Cc: meteorite-list <[email protected]>; valparint ><[email protected]> >Sent: Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:13 pm >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day > > > An "unobserved fall" is two words to describe the one word that has >been used for a century, "Find". The one word "Find" is good enough for >the Catalogue of Meteorites, it was good enough for Harvey Nininger, >and it is what I shall always use. Keep it concise. >Regards, Fred Hall > > > >That would make sense for say New Orleans, where a stone went through a >> house and no one in their right mind would suggest that it did not >fall at >> that time say between 8 am and 4 pm when there was no hole in the >house, >> yet it was not seen to fall. >> An old rock found in a field does not suggest anything about fall >date. So >> it is a find, something never really argued against until now? >> It has crust which can suggest it is not thousands of years old, most >of >> our Springwater meteorites have black and blue crust but nevertheless >it >> is a find. >> Michael Farmer >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jan 4, 2013, at 10:28 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> An "unobserved fall" is, well, a fall that was not observed, in >>> contradistinction to a fall that was observed. The terminology of the >>> Meteoritical Bulletin Database is "Observed fall: no". >>> >>> The information being conveyed is NOT that the meteorite fell but >that >>> the fall was not observed. >>> >>> In general, the questions about falling and finding are: >>> >>> 1) was the fall observed? >>> 2) if so, when was it observed? >>> 3) if not, is there any guesstimate of when it fell? >>> 4) regardless of weather it was observed or not, when was it actually >>> found? >>> >>> Paul Swartz >>> MPOD webmaster >>> >>>> What is an "unobserved fall"? Every meteorite fell at some point. I >>>> have thousands of unobserved falls in my collection. >>>> Michael Farmer >>>> >> ______________________________________________ >> >> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > >______________________________________________ > >Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >Meteorite-list mailing list >[email protected] >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > >______________________________________________ > >Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >Meteorite-list mailing list >[email protected] >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list [email protected] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
