Hallo Martin, I said meteorite to him and the answer was "no". I don't want to call attention to myself by asking for a further clarification. My feeling is that he would take offense at my having the impudence (Frechheit) to quote his own laws to him.
Alles bestes Guido -----Original Message----- >From: Martin Altmann <[email protected]> >Sent: Apr 18, 2013 12:14 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! > >Hi Count, > >maybe you could ask the consul again, to give you the respective law? > >Decisive is the Law No. 2863 of July 21, 1983 on Conservation of Cultural and >Natural Property (as last amended by Law No. 5835 of February 4, 2009 and Law >No. 5917 of June 25, 2009) > >Here it is in English version: >http://www.wipo.int/wipolex/en/text.jsp?file_id=249359 > >It definitely has no meteorites in the catalogue-articles, where all kind of >object-categories are explicitly named. > >Neither cover the definitions of "cultural property" nor "natural property", >given in Chapter 1, Art. 3a) 1)&2) >Meteorites in general, but would need an interpretation by a court. >E.g. a find of H5 could perhaps not be regarded "unique" (nor being of beauty, >if it's W3, hehe). > >And even if covered, if purchased from a dealer with the right license, they >could be exported like antiquities in such cases too. > >On the other side, rocks are per se not "o.k." see the definition of "natural >property". > > >Best, >Martin > > >-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >Von: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Count Deiro >Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. April 2013 20:31 >An: Anne Black; [email protected] >Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! > >Dear Anne, > >In reading the story, the two suspected artifacts are described in the body of >the article. > >I have contacted the Turkish Cultural and Economic Affairs office in Los >Angeles, California and His Excellency, Aydın Topcu, Consul General for >Turkey, informs me that the collection of meteorites for removal from Turkey >is forbidden under law and that there is no permit process. > >So "rocks" ok...other things not. > >Cordially, > >Count Deiro >IMCA 3536 > >-----Original Message----- >>From: Anne Black <[email protected]> >>Sent: Apr 18, 2013 11:09 AM >>To: [email protected], [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! >> >>Sorry, but this does not add up. >>I have been to Turkey twice, beautiful country, very friendly people. I >>have bought minerals, some multi-colored marbles, picked up some blue >>serpentine on the side of the road, and had no problem at all bringing >>them back. >>I also visited many archaeological sites, but I certainly would never >>pick up anything there. >> >>I wonder what his "stones" look like! >> >> >>Anne M. Black >>www.IMPACTIKA.com >>[email protected] >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Count Deiro <[email protected]> >>To: meteorite-list <[email protected]> >>Sent: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 10:48 am >>Subject: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh! >> >> >>Hello Listees, >> >>Take a look at how Turkey is handling "rock collectors". And this one a >>tourist! >> >> >>http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/22013551/us-tourist-faces-jail-in-turkey-f >>or-collecting-beach-stones#axzz2QpOTN1Sq >> >>"It will never be he same." >> >>Count Deiro >>IMCA 3536 MetSoc >>______________________________________________ >> >>Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>Meteorite-list mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> > >______________________________________________ > >Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >Meteorite-list mailing list >[email protected] >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >______________________________________________ > >Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >Meteorite-list mailing list >[email protected] >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list [email protected] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
