Jason, Even in California, someone is usually required to pay the tax. States learned this early on to level the playing field between interstate and intrastate dealers. If I remember right California calls this a Use tax and it does apply to online sales in California revenue law. Use tax is one of the most abused taxes on the face of the planet. I would be safe in saying that the vast majority of any sale is taxable between any state in the union.
Jim On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Adam Hupe <[email protected]> wrote: > Jason, > > I will not argue the point anymore here on the List. It is turning into a > purely political discussion. I just wanted to make online sellers aware that > there may be some more excess taxation on the horizon. Just for the record, I > believe in paying my fair share but dislike seeing it wasted on big > government. Perhaps you can study the bill more, write a report and send it > somebody who cares about another piece of misleading legislation. > > Many states already collect taxes on minor sells, including garage sales and > swap-meets. I know because I used to live in such a state. The million > dollar limit is a myth to mislead people like yourself. > > Wait until you need to send a 1099 to your paper boy who is trying put > himself though college and then get back to me. That's right, you don't read > a paper and get all your information from the interment which must make it > true so don't bother responding unless you absolutely need to get the last > word in. > > Either way, I don't care, > . > Adam > > . > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jason Utas <[email protected]> > To: Adam Hupe <[email protected]> > Cc: > Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 8:56 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Websites and State Taxes > > Hello Adam, > So...you can read that the million-dollar lower limit applies, no > matter what. > Right? > So the small guy is fine. > Jason > > www.fallsandfinds.com > > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Adam Hupe <[email protected]> wrote: >> You can read, great >> >> Thus you found the small print. The state is in charge therefore the small >> guy will take a beating. >> >> Adam >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jason Utas <[email protected]> >> To: Meteorite-list <[email protected]> >> Cc: >> Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 7:10 PM >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Websites and State Taxes >> >> Adam, >> You're not telling the truth. >> -------------------- >> SMALL SELLER EXCEPTION.-A State is authorized to require a remote >> seller to collect sales and use taxes under this Act only if the >> remote seller has gross annual receipts in total remote sales in the >> United States in the preceding calendar year exceeding $1,000,000. For >> purposes of determining whether the threshold in this subÂsection is >> met- >> >> 1) the sales of all persons related within the meaning of subsections >> (b) and (c) of section 267 or section 707(b)(1) of the Internal >> Revenue Code of 1986 shall be aggregated; or >> 2) persons with 1 or more ownership relationships shall also be >> aggregated if such relationships were designed with a principal >> purpose of avoiding the application of these rules. >> -------------------- >> http://www.marketplacefairness.org/bill-text/ >> >> This also clears up the issue of whether or not a brick-and-mortar >> store would have to accrue a total of $1,000,000 in sales -- versus >> $1,000,000 in exclusively internet sales -- before being forced to >> pay/charge taxes on online purchases. It's internet-only. In other >> words, if your business grosses ~$1,500,000 in in-store sales, but >> only sells $500,000 of merchandise online, you still wouldn't have to >> pay any online sales tax. Unless your state has preexisting >> provisions that require you to do so. >> >> Furthermore, the enforcement of this tax policy will be up to the >> states. In other words, they can choose to enforce it (or not) as >> they see fit. >> >> I'd read the document; it's only five pages. >> >> Regards, >> Jason >> >> www.fallsandfinds.com >> >> >> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Jason Utas <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Adam, >>> You're not telling the truth. >>> -------------------- >>> SMALL SELLER EXCEPTION.-A State is authorized to require a remote >>> seller to collect sales and use taxes under this Act only if the >>> remote seller has gross annual receipts in total remote sales in the >>> United States in the preceding calendar year exceeding $1,000,000. For >>> purposes of determining whether the threshold in this subÂsection is >>> met- >>> >>> 1) the sales of all persons related within the meaning of subsections >>> (b) and (c) of section 267 or section 707(b)(1) of the Internal >>> Revenue Code of 1986 shall be aggregated; or >>> 2) persons with 1 or more ownership relationships shall also be >>> aggregated if such relationships were designed with a principal >>> purpose of avoiding the application of these rules. >>> -------------------- >>> http://www.marketplacefairness.org/bill-text/ >>> >>> This also clears up the issue of whether or not a brick-and-mortar >>> store would have to accrue a total of $1,000,000 in sales -- versus >>> $1,000,000 in exclusively internet sales -- before being forced to >>> pay/charge taxes on online purchases. It's internet-only. In other >>> words, if your business grosses ~$1,500,000 in in-store sales, but >>> only sells $500,000 of merchandise online, you still wouldn't have to >>> pay any online sales tax. Unless your state has preexisting >>> provisions that require you to do so. >>> >>> Furthermore, the enforcement of this tax policy will be up to the >>> states. In other words, they can choose to enforce it (or not) as >>> they see fit. >>> >>> I'd read the document; it's only five pages. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Jason >>> >>> www.fallsandfinds.com >>> >>> >>> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Adam Hupe <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Jason Wrote: >>>> >>>> ********************************************************************************* >>>> I can't see how this new law would hurt small sellers, though. Since >>>> only the companies making more than a million per year will have to >>>> charge/pay taxes on inter-state sales, if anything, it gives an >>>> advantage to the folks selling under that range. >>>> ********************************************************************************* >>>> >>>> Don't be so naive. This bill allows states to make all sellers collect >>>> taxes on their behalf and there is no real one million dollar exclusion: >>>> read the small print. Just like the Affordable Healthcare Act was >>>> supposed make healthcare affordable. Instead it was just one massive >>>> deceptive tax increase that will punish those who can least afford >>>> healthcare with fines. >>>> >>>> I have no idea why the feds are involved in state business in the first >>>> place. It is all driven by weak politicians who are being pressured by >>>> large companies like Amazon who want online market share. >>>> >>>> At least here in Nevada, there are no state corporate taxes. >>>> >>>> Adam >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> ______________________________________________ >> >> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> ______________________________________________ >> >> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Jim Wooddell [email protected] 928-247-2675 ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list [email protected] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
