Amazing!
Read all meteoritics books edited last 10 years, read all Nature's, Sciece
and of course Meteoritics and Planetary Science aricles about meteorites.
No need of a degree in geology...just read.
Visit as museums as you can that takes care of meteorites.
Visit Ensishem, Munich and Tucson shows.
I'm sure that before completing this simple list you will be able to
recognize a meteorite.
A real meteorite, not the rocks showed in your images!
We are serious people making our best to contribute to meteoritics science.
Read, look, and respectfully learn from people who really knows about that.
David Allepuz
www.meteorits.cat
www.cazameteoritos.es
IMCA #1496
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From: Peter Richards via Meteorite-list
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 8:23 PM
To: Bob King
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Accepting Inquiries From Accredited Scientific
or Educational Institutions...
I need not be cautioned. There are plenty of liars, or, otherwise,
misinformed persons in the world, feasibly, and that is about as
scientific a truth as one can get. All your various claims about metal
flecks, scratch tests being necessary are plainly fallacious, hence
your conclusions based on my improper procedure for not following them
is as well. I am sure you all are confident that, at least, for
contesting this, even if you are plainly being disingenuous, plainly
acting the fools, or tricksters, levaraging your age, knowledge, or
experience, to misinform people. It is fine. I know what was done to
Steve Curry, and I know, a freemason grocer I know who is a piece of
_, as it so happens, might like to inform me that what was done to
Curry will be done to me, as he informs me about his taste for sweet
potatoes flavoured with Curry (that grocer's name is Michael Garvin
and he is a person who displays his bigotry on this shoulder).
kind regards and thank you for the insult Michael Farmer, yes I do
love the Nigerians but I am not them and when you define "scam" you
will see that "metal flecks" and suggesting a granite meteorite is
impossible, and the need for scratch tests and specific gravity tests
clearly equates with such, you bully
later,
Peter
On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Bob King <[email protected]> wrote:
Peter,
I think MikeG. wrote a very kind reply trying to help you out. And
he's correct, there are no granite meteorites. You would do well to
follow his advice. My own opinion is that you have some low resolution
photos of rusty rocks which I'm doubtful are meteorites. You'll need
to shoot higher resolution images under better (try outdoors) lighting
for anyone to make a possible confirmation. Your best bet is to grind
off an edge of one of them with coarse sandpaper or a diamond file to
see inside. If you find silvery, metallic flecks - NOT mineral
crystals - scattered about the rock's matrix then let us know.
In the meantime I would caution you against taking up the martyr of
truth vs. scientific establishment approach.
Regards,
Bob
On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Peter Richards via Meteorite-list
<[email protected]> wrote:
Mike, I think your approach is great for novices. I know that not only
you but many professional meteoricists have your "hardline", barely
logical, if so, preconceived, "paper form" reply, when, of course, it
is an odd inheritor of the mantle of people who once said meteorites
did not even exist, which I believe Geoff Notkin has reported included
the heads of the Catholic church at one point historically. I get that
scientists, like you seem to me to, might prefer to discredit the
possibility than be honest, yet, again, it is what it is. My previous
statements are what they are. You can call them what you want, at the
behest of yourself or your friends or whoever motivates you to do what
you do. Of course, oddly enough, you seemingly disingenuous people are
leaning into this, and seem prepared to throw your all at me in such a
muckracking match, in lieu of the professionals. Really, I have some
emails from them, so it is the same. You all are what you are, the
rock is what it is (as previously described), and I am what I am, and
maybe I should have not been provoked by your message, and ignored it,
but, I have already written this and the "send" button is in sight, so
do not fight. I know how great you all are. I have explained what you
are doing. I don't know why. It does protect your financial interests,
and my writing the truth, and not being cowed by past "infidelities"
is my attempt to protect my own.
cordially,
Peter
P.S. There are no granite meteorites recognized/officially-known and
would it not be bizarre if some people had a bias towards wanting it
to stay that way?
On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Peter,
It's hard to tell from the photos, but I do not see any outward signs
that would suggest these rocks might be meteorites. I do not see any
fusion crust, and what I do see is probably desert varnish. Desert
varnish forms on all rocks, not just meteorites.
Have you done a streak test or specific gravity test? These are both
low-tech tests that anybody can use to narrow down the range of
possibilities. If the rocks fails the streak test, it's not a
meteorite. If the rock has a specific gravity that falls outside the
range for stony meteorites, then it's not a meteorite.
You will find that most "accredited" institutions that work with
meteorites do not accept unsolicited samples because of the sheer
volume of rocks clogging the system waiting for analysis.
My advice is to use the streak and specific gravity tests to help rule
in/out the possibility of the stones being meteoritic or terrestrial.
If the rocks pass these tests, then try cutting a window into one of
them and see if there are any chondrules or metal flecks.
Best regards,
MikeG
PS - there are no granite meteorites, so if the rock is "granite" then
it is not a meteorite.
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On 6/7/15, Peter Richards via Meteorite-list
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hello Michael, no, but I will pass the Actlabs information on to any
representatives of accredited institutions who inquire. The stone is a
granite, and the photos may not tell the story of the crust glaringly,
but it is apparently what is there, for those of us (me only right
now) who have the privilege of holding the stone. Thank you for the
"bump" anyway, although, of course, I am wondering what your
intentions were. Anyway, again, you use official scale cubes, and
these animal sculptures are all I have right now, but I understand
that it is less than fully ideal, and, again, this is not a commercial
sale, so to Mr. Farmer's defence, he is not lowering the price for
some associate of his to buy. Yes, I am a real person and an American
citizen, and the rock is as it was described, and I am sorry that some
people want to tell me it is what sort of terrestrial rock by chance?
God knows. Keep looking if interested, and I will try to improve the
photos, but there is perhaps adequate visual information already.
regards,
Peter
On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Michael Farmer <[email protected]>
wrote:
What kind of Nigerian scam attempt is this email? Trying to sell
garbage
trinkets?
A,asking what makes it on the list these days.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 6, 2015, at 8:48 PM, Peter Richards via Meteorite-list
<[email protected]> wrote:
To whom it may concern, I am offering this link, for the benefit of
representatives of accredited educational and scientific
institutions,
displaying a stone which an Actlabs (of Lancaster, Ontario) report
has
identified to me as a granite, which, is almost definitely
meteoritic,
which I say due to the distinct coating, and its shape, given that I
have not shaped or coated this stone and that these traits appear in
no way artificial. I can only guess what value to anyone denying that
this could be a meteorite is, but I will have to preclude such
proclamations by reminding people that, unless I have truly missed
something, there is less evidence to support such a claim than there
is to support my above-made claim.
Here is a link to a photo album, please see first photo (sculptures
are for scale reference, btw):
http://www.ipernity.com/doc/312101/album/793480
I am gauging interest alone here, I do not suppose this counts as an
ad, for the purposes are less than commercial although I, of course,
would like to determine if it is legal for any grants, or such
things,
to be given by any willing recipients of any material I make
available, to me, as a token of gratitude, to compensate for my
exertions while acquiring this, and to help me better conserve what I
have collected, in case there is indeed scientific value belonging to
this collection of mine, and, it is ultimately up to Art whether or
not this counts as an advertisement technically speaking.
Promptness will be much appreciated and rewarded where possible.
Once more, this is for accredited educational or scientific
institutions. I will hear of interest from outside the U.S., but the
state department's approval will be needed before anything is
provided
to such institutions, as according to law.
Thank you and kindest regards to all,
Peter E. D. Richards
currently of Chicago, IL
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