Steve is not "reselling". You are taking advantage of a mentally-challenged person who loves to throw his money in the trash. He bought a piece from me and promptly sold it for 1/3 what he paid before he even received it. You know what he does, why he does it no one knows. You should be ashamed to even participate in that nonsense. I am ashamed I sold to him. It won't happen again. I guess too much time had passed and I had forgotten what was likely to happen. Michael
Sent from my iPad > On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:44 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list > <[email protected]> wrote: > > I was not going to mention my deal with Steve in this discussion, Michael, > because I did not want people to think they could already find it cheaper > from others who are reselling for their own reasons. I did not want to > undermine your investment by stating that, but now the cat is out of the bag, > and that is your doing. > > Yes, in case anyone is wondering, you can already find a good deal on Bingol > by having a little patience, and buying a piece from someone reselling. Like > I said before, I am always looking for the deals. Otherwise how do you > afford meteorites on a Medical Student's income...? > > All this discussion about prices does not change the current prices, it only > changes the attitude toward these prices in the future. That's what is > important in my mind. > > John > > > > > > Sent using the mail.com mail app > >> On 11/15/15 at 11:58 PM, Michael Farmer wrote: >> >> You didn't buy that Chelyabinsk from me, I never sold for that price. And >> I'm sorry, but a 10,000 ton impactor flooded the market with more material >> than the market could consume. Classic supply and demand. Don't worry about >> it. Since you were able to take advantage of Steve's imbecile behavior of >> selling Bingol at 1/3 of what he paid me, or not, don't know if he cancelled >> that deal, if so you got a good price. If not, then go buy NWA chondrites, >> they're nice and cheap. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> >> >>>> On Nov 15, 2015, at 8:34 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> Chelyabinsk was an extraordinary event too. I spent 50$/g on my first >>> specimens of it and now they sell for 5$/g from IMCA sellers on the good >>> old fashioned irrelevent Ebay. ;-) >> >> >>> Extraordinary event or no, that doesn't mean a piece of Bingol sold for >>> 150$/g today won't show up on Ebay a year from now for less than half that >>> price. >> >> >>> G'night all. Have fun collecting. :-) >> >> >>> John >> >> >> >> >> >>> Sent using the mail.com mail app >> >> >>>> On 11/15/15 at 11:08 PM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list wrote: >> >> >>>> I'm simply shocked at the seeming lack of knowledge I'm seeing lately. >>>> Between the people who still think eBay is relevant to the fact that a >>>> Howardite fall seems blasé compared to incredible Morasko. I am >>>> flabbergasted that the new collectors/dealers see clueless as to exactly >>>> what an extraordinary even this was. I didn't just go to a damned war >>>> zone lightly. But it's a chance of a lifetime so I took the risks. Not >>>> alone I might add. But hey, don't worry, some campitos are up for grabs >>>> tonight on eBay:) >> >>>> Sorry guys, not at all impugning small collectors. I spent the time to >>>> package and ship $20 orders from Europe! In one box a $20 piece, the next >>>> box a $20,000 piece. Sounds to me like I take care of my customers, down >>>> to the smallest order. >> >> >>>> Michael Farmer >> >> >>>> Sent from my iPad >> >> >>>>> On Nov 15, 2015, at 7:24 PM, Gmail <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>>>> Michael, >> >> >>>>> Seriously! John is a collector and enthusiastic about meteorites. Maybe >>>>> you have bought and sold $150k of Bingol, but that doesn't give you the >>>>> right to insult people. Why not keep your personal business dealings to >>>>> yourself? You work hard for your living, you may even be the top grossing >>>>> dealer on this planet, but no need to tell everyone. You have a great >>>>> reputation until you say things like this. There is room for all kinds of >>>>> collectors and, dare I say, even dealers. I personally felt John's >>>>> comments engendered some great discussions and provided unique insights >>>>> likely shared by others. Clearly, based on my own response, I did not >>>>> agree with John, but I never felt the need to insult him. >> >> >>>>> Oh well, to each his own. >> >> >>>>> Mendy Ouzillou >> >> >>>>> On Nov 15, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>>>> Who is this? A new dealer? >> >>>>> Comparing a howardite fall to Morasko? A frigging rotten old iron that >>>>> can be found by the ton? Identical to campo? Please, these people need to >>>>> go find a meteorite Walmart. Leave the actual good stuff to the >>>>> professionals? >> >>>>> I've already bought and sold more than $150,000 in Bingöl. And eBay is >>>>> not the place it sells. >> >>>>> Good luck guys. Bottom feeders. >> >> >> >>>>> Michael Farmer >> >> >>>>>> On Nov 15, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>>>>> Hi John, >> >> >>>>>> I completely understand what you mean, as I have made a great living >> >>>>>> selling meteorites of all types over the last 18 years. >> >> >>>>>> However, history has proven that while most meteorites do go up in >> >>>>>> value over time - rare witnessed falls almost always appreciate in >> >>>>>> value dramatically. >> >> >>>>>> Which explains why so many collectors moving to collecting only falls >>>>>> now days. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list >> >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>>> Ruben, >> >>>>>>> For 450$ you can get a 3g piece of Bingol (that you need a loop to >>>>>>> really enjoy) or you can get a 177g etched slice of Morasko that looks >>>>>>> phenomenal in your collection. >> >> >>>>>>> Added to this, that Bingol piece really isn't any harder to find for >>>>>>> the buyer than Morasko, and in the long run will probably be worth >>>>>>> 50-75% of what you pay now. >> >> >>>>>>> Howardite fall or not, the price is more than I'm willing to pay. >> >>>>>>> My opinion atleast. >> >>>>>>> Cheers, >> >>>>>>> John >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Sent using the mail.com mail app >> >> >>>>>>>> On 11/15/15 at 5:32 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list wrote: >> >> >>>>>>>> Hi John, >> >> >>>>>>>> It's a howarite fall..... >> >> >>>>>>>> In my opinion it's probably about once in 20-30 year type thing. >> >>>>>>>> Expensive? Yes, but I think not over priced - at least not for what >> >>>>>>>> it is. >> >> >>>>>>>> Other achondrite falls like Passamonte - $1000 per gram >> >> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list >> >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> I may be crucified for saying this, but it's a little bit >>>>>>>>> ridiculous... >> >>>>>>>>> So many specimens and demanding so high a price... Just feels >>>>>>>>> ridiculous. >> >>>>>>>>> Anyhow... Enjoy the specimens! >> >>>>>>>>> John A. Shea >> >>>>>>>>> IMCA 3295 >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Sent using the mail.com mail app >> >> >>>>>>>>>> On 11/15/15 at 5:08 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list wrote: >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Hello Listers >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Looks like there is a lot of the material coming from that fall :) >> >>>>>>>>>> if villagers have received over $200,000. >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Shawn Alan >> >>>>>>>>>> IMCA 1633 >> >>>>>>>>>> ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html >> >>>>>>>>>> Website http://meteoritefalls.com >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make >> >>>>>>>>>> Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain >>>>>>>>>> Down >> >> >>>>>>>>>> "When a meteor exploded over a village in eastern Turkey in >>>>>>>>>> September, >> >>>>>>>>>> residents were frightened by the sound and the illuminated sky. In >>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>> weeks that followed, they started picking up small bits of black >>>>>>>>>> rock, >> >>>>>>>>>> but considered them insignificant. Then, with the visit of an >>>>>>>>>> academic >> >>>>>>>>>> from a university in Istanbul, they learned the tiny stones they’d >> >>>>>>>>>> been finding scattered across their land were a financial godsend. >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Last week alone, collectors from Germany and the U.S. spent some >> >>>>>>>>>> $200,000 on the meteorites, according to Mehmet Nezir Ergün, one of >>>>>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>>>>> villagers. “I hope everyone finds some. Poor people are always >>>>>>>>>> looking >> >>>>>>>>>> for pieces. They need them more than we do,” Ergün told the Doğan >> >>>>>>>>>> News Agency, according to Today's Zaman." >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Source: >> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.ibtimes.com/meteorite-fall-over-eastern-turkish-village-poor-villagers-make-hundreds-thousands-2175990 >> >> >>>>>>>>>> ______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral >>>>>>>>>> and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> >>>>>>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >> >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >> >>>>>>>>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >>>>>>>>> ______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>>>>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and >>>>>>>>> the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> >>>>>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >> >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >> >>>>>>>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>> Rock On! >> >> >>>>>>>> Ruben Garcia >> >>>>>>>> http://www.MrMeteorite.com >> >>>>>>>> ______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>>>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and >>>>>>>> the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> >>>>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >> >>>>>>>> [email protected] >> >>>>>>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >>>>>>> ______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and >>>>>>> the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> >>>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >> >>>>>>> [email protected] >> >>>>>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> >> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> Rock On! >> >> >>>>>> Ruben Garcia >> >>>>>> http://www.MrMeteorite.com >> >>>>>> ______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and >>>>>> the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> >>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >> >>>>>> [email protected] >> >>>>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >>>>> ______________________________________________ >> >> >>>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the >>>>> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> >>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >> >>>>> [email protected] >> >>>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >>>> ______________________________________________ >> >> >>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the >>>> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> >>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >> >>>> [email protected] >> >>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >>> ______________________________________________ >> >> >>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the >>> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >> >>> [email protected] >> >>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > ______________________________________________ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > [email protected] > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ______________________________________________ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list [email protected] https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
