in my experience, the single most problematic term in meteorite
commerce is "orientation." this seems to be in part due to a
reluctance to differentiate objects which exhibit a bit of
orientation from those which exhibit nothing but orientation.
the new generation of collectors are not to be faulted for the
seeming misapplication of the term as a result of what is today its
liberal, ubiquitous use.
might i suggest that the list come up with a grading system of
orientation in much the same way that weathering and shocking are
graded.
three or four grades of orientation to finally---FINALLY--put this
notion to rest.
d.
On Mar 4, 2008, at 8:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Elton, others,
in this case, and regarding the thoroughly curated and
painstakingly documented collection Dave keeps, I would rather
trust the owner's judgement instead of your photo interpretation
skills - however visionary they may be.
Besides there is currently no need to defend Dave as you have not
provided a single point why the stone pictured should not be
oriented. You may consider this in your concept of science.
just my two cents
Svend
--- Mr EMan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ok would someone that believes this is an accurate
caption please
defend it.
"Sean Northover, a student at Kennesaw Mountain
High School,
confirming the weight of a fresh, ">>>ORIENTED<<<"
32.6 kg
chondrite"???
<http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_4_2008.html>
This is too early
for April 1st.
To let bad and really bad psuedoscience take over
all we had to do was
continue being silent on dubious claims. Now every
other meteorite we
see is "oriented". We know this is the truth
because any new commer,
meteorite owner, is magically, over night, an
"expert" at identifying
and describing meteorite surface features.
If anyone wishes to declare a meteorite "oriented"--
anyone may do so
without a pittance of proof and no one on this list
will ever object.
Because we refuse to define "oriented".
Ergo, I have a perfect sphere meteorite that fell
from my table to the
floor and under the imagination that makes EVERY
single meteorite
"oriented" I can proclaim that my sphere is oriented
having traveled
through the atmosphere. Given the wide latitude
used in claiming
orientation no one can disprove that I am not
correct.
(OH YEAH and it has perfect fusion crust because
its drop was extended
for several seconds over a candle flame before
reaching the floor).
I can proclaim it as a fully oriented, fully fusion
crusted,
sphere-shaped "fall" and under the unfettered
latitude we allow amongst
meteorite collectors no one can prove my description
wrong.
So is this a hobby or a study of science?
Continually Baffled,
Elton
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