Folks,
I've seen that piece up close and personal - there is no doubt it is
oriented.
Simply a matter of how the student was holding the specimen.
Elton does make a good point about how some dealers are scrambling to
add the word "Oriented" or even Crust / Bullet / Hole, etc. to their
descriptions since it has become more desireable from a marketting
standpoint. I see it a lot, and I'm pretty new to this field. It's
educators
like Dave that have been setting me straight as I learn and grow in the
hobby.
In this case, it was simply just a picture of the wrong side of the rock
that released some frustration.
Sean.
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] March 4 RSPOD Oriented (sic) 32kg stone
Elton, others,
in this case, and regarding the thoroughly curated and painstakingly
documented collection Dave keeps, I would rather trust the owner's
judgement instead of your photo interpretation skills - however visionary
they may be.
Besides there is currently no need to defend Dave as you have not provided
a single point why the stone pictured should not be oriented. You may
consider this in your concept of science.
just my two cents
Svend
--- Mr EMan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ok would someone that believes this is an accurate
caption please
defend it.
"Sean Northover, a student at Kennesaw Mountain
High School,
confirming the weight of a fresh, ">>>ORIENTED<<<"
32.6 kg
chondrite"???
<http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_4_2008.html>
This is too early
for April 1st.
To let bad and really bad psuedoscience take over
all we had to do was
continue being silent on dubious claims. Now every
other meteorite we
see is "oriented". We know this is the truth
because any new commer,
meteorite owner, is magically, over night, an
"expert" at identifying
and describing meteorite surface features.
If anyone wishes to declare a meteorite "oriented"--
anyone may do so
without a pittance of proof and no one on this list
will ever object.
Because we refuse to define "oriented".
Ergo, I have a perfect sphere meteorite that fell
from my table to the
floor and under the imagination that makes EVERY
single meteorite
"oriented" I can proclaim that my sphere is oriented
having traveled
through the atmosphere. Given the wide latitude
used in claiming
orientation no one can disprove that I am not
correct.
(OH YEAH and it has perfect fusion crust because
its drop was extended
for several seconds over a candle flame before
reaching the floor).
I can proclaim it as a fully oriented, fully fusion
crusted,
sphere-shaped "fall" and under the unfettered
latitude we allow amongst
meteorite collectors no one can prove my description
wrong.
So is this a hobby or a study of science?
Continually Baffled,
Elton
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