Hello Darryl,
is a bombing victim killed by a bomb-produced shock
wave not killed by the bomb?
No. They would killed by the shock wave.
If dirt kicked up by a meteorite hits a person, is said meteorite then a
"hammer?" No.
Like all analogies, it eventually breaks down.
It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the end - Douglas
Adams.
-Walter Branch
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darryl Pitt" <[email protected]>
To: "Impactika" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>; "Martin Altmann" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: WG: AW: [IMCA] Hammers & Orientation from Dave
(deep breath)
is a bombing victim killed by a bomb-produced shock wave not killed by
the bomb?
hi anne! ;-)
On Mar 10, 2009, at 6:43 PM, Impactika wrote:
Hello Dave, and all,
I submit another example to you: Carancas, since it has been discussed
on the other List.
In my personal opinion, only one fragment of the Carancas meteorite would
qualify as a hammer: the fragment that hit the house on the picture, but
it would have to be properly documented, with proof that this specific
fragment, and not another one, or a piece of ejecta, is the actual
fragment that damaged this roof. Any other fragment is just that: a
fragment of the Carancas meteorite. As for the animals, they might have
been hit by a shock wave, not by a fragment of the meteorite.
With the same logic, a few of the Park Forest fragments can qualify as
hammers, I am talking about the actual fragments that hit cars, roofs,
.... and only those. And again, only with proper verifiable
documentation. All other pieces of Park Forest are just that: pieces of
the Park Forest meteorite.
That still leaves Peekskill and Claxton as hammer meteorites, since they
are single stones, and witnessed, documented falls.
As for me, as a dealer, I will not use the term hammer on my website
unless I have absolute proof and documentation that a certain specimen
did hit a human, animal, or something man-made (roads, trees, fields....
don't count!).
But that is my opinion.
Any others?
Anne Black
IMCA - #2356
In a message dated 03/10/09 09:16:39 Mountain Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. März 2009 15:47
An: Martin Altmann
Betreff: RE: AW: [IMCA] Hammers & Orientation
Hi, Martin,
Please forward this quick note back to the IMCA list; I'm on a web
interface and can't respond to the list from here...thanks:
. . . . . . . . . . .
The problem, at least in my view, with hammers is the fact that they are
most appreciated by the least meteorite-savvy buyers. These newbie
collectors are most exposed to paying a ridiculous price because a piece
of, say, Thuathe was found in the roof of a hut -- yet the piece they're
contemplating purchase around was picked up in a field two miles away.
Thuathe might not be the best example, as it's a killer meteorite in its
own right. Your example of Gao- Guenie, though by no means reflected in
market pricing (yet, anyway), might be better.
. . . . . . . . . . .
Dave
IMCA #5967
www.fallingrocks.com
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