Greg, I'm not saying they are useless. I am just saying for scientific knowledge they are not all that important. I'm just saying that I don't like having my new find classification held up because I don't want to share co-ords at this time. that's all. Although depending on who you are you may be able to get it done without co-ords. If you are say, someone named Jack and your son works at U of A Planetary sciences perhaps? Nothing personal here but as always it's who you know I guess. sorry. And by the way. I don't remember where I found that beautiful blood red ruby. Why do you ask? If I happen to remember, you will be the first to know. NOT! -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax
---- Greg Stanley <[email protected]> wrote: > > What if the Brenham meteorite never was documented. Perhaps Steve Arnold > would have never found his huge meteorite a few years back. Never developed > his searching technique and thus perhaps no "Meteorite Men." > > Just imagine if a friend came home and showed you a beautiful blood red ruby > (gem quality) the size of a baseball, and you asked "where did you find > that?" and he replied "I don't know." > > The more all work together, the more we all benefit and our children benefit. > > Greg S. > > ---------------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:33:32 -0500 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > > CC: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Request> Glorieta Mountain strewnfield map > > > > Robert, > > I couldn't agree with you more here about Jeff. > > He is in my opinion THE most important person on this list. period. Not > > because I agree with him all of the time but because he always has THE > > RIGHT THING TO SAY. Which puts him head and shoulders above most of us and > > especially above me. > > Having said that. I don't yet understand why people put so much importance > > on find co-ords and strewnfields. It has not only been pointed out by > > another important list member that "A meteorite does not care where it > > lands". (Ted Bunch). But to add to that I personally don't see where it > > will ever matter all that much. I mean it has been pointed out that; > > 1). These rocks move around and therefore do not tell us anything about > > where they landed. The wind , water, flood, erosion. What ever the reason > > these things move around. > > 2). They are not a geological formation. They land totally randomly. This > > is therefore trivial information ( of very little value). > > 3). Larger material falls farthest? Yes, and littler one ride piggy back > > with the big ones which skews the pattern and we may never know it because > > The bigger ones may bury themselves never to be found. So, what have we > > learned from something never found? > > 4). How much more can we expect to learn from strewnfields? Ask any third > > grader to show you what rocks do when they fall from any angle. > > 5). This is really very simple stuff. The science is in the rest of the > > knowledge we can gain. Let this co-ords and strewnfield crap go and things > > will get a lot simpler. > > 6). This will eliminate the need for certain laws. Nobody will care where > > it landed and therefore less court battles over something that wouldn't > > exist if not for an informed finder anyway. > > 7). Did I mention beating a dead horse? > > 8). I am sure I did not think of all the bad reasons for mapping here . > > Give me time. > > 9). I understand in the past we needed data on this but we are past the > > invention of the wheel. Time to move forward. > > But Jeff, other than that we all love you. Well at least like you a bunch. > > Carl > > -- > > Carl or Debbie Esparza > > Meteoritemax > > > > > > ---- Robert Woolard wrote: > >> Jeff, > >> > >> You wrote in part: > >> "A good policy would continue to reward those > >>> who find these objects on behalf of the people, but also > >>> prevent the loss of scientific information and significant > >>> specimens. > >>> > >>> The question becomes, how can a reasonable regulation and > >>> permitting process be created? I'll discuss this with > >>> my colleagues in DOI and the SI, and perhaps groups like the > >>> IMCA can help lobby for this as well. I think it is > >>> quite achievable." > >> > >> > >> THANK you so much for your very intelligent and logical input. You are > >> exactly the kind of "scientist/human being" ;-) we need! We are lucky to > >> have someone like you as a member of The List. I'm sure we all greatly > >> appreciate your willingness to help in this matter. > >> > >> Sincerely, > >> Robert Woolard > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ______________________________________________ > >> Visit the Archives at > >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > >> Meteorite-list mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/ ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list [email protected] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
